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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #45 on: November 03, 2010, 10:56:21 AM »
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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #46 on: November 03, 2010, 11:03:27 AM »
Peter,

The KONE provides a wonderful combination of body that nears that of a french press, but allows a lot more of the acidity of the coffee to shine through without any of the oils being lost. It is designed to allow some fine grinds through, but not sludgy sediment like you'd get in a press.

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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #47 on: November 03, 2010, 11:09:28 AM »
Peter,

The KONE provides a wonderful combination of body that nears that of a french press, but allows a lot more of the acidity of the coffee to shine through without any of the oils being lost. It is designed to allow some fine grinds through, but not sludgy sediment like you'd get in a press.

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So basically a Swiss Gold filter? only made from stainless steel and priced about 3 times as much?
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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #48 on: November 03, 2010, 11:18:49 AM »
Does a Swiss gold filter produce a similar body as a French press?

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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #49 on: November 03, 2010, 11:22:44 AM »
Does a Swiss gold filter produce a similar body as a French press?

Also, I believe the SG filter allows a too-fast flow.
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« Reply #50 on: November 03, 2010, 11:33:34 AM »
Does a Swiss gold filter produce a similar body as a French press?

Also, I believe the SG filter allows a too-fast flow.

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Just look at that cone what do you think Logically can make the flow any slower than a swiss gold? Is that even something that they say it does?

Peter- I have the exact opposite problem with my swiss gold filters Paper filters flow much faster in my coffee makers. I have to leave my caraf in my newco about 20 seconds after the brewing stops, where as with the paper filter when it beeps its done.

I don't see anything from this product that would lead me to believe there is anything unique that isn't in a swiss gold filter already, other than it has a pointy end and it looks like you might be able to buy a specific caraf that it fits in. I don't even want to guess how much that handblown in the USA glass caraf would cost.
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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #51 on: November 03, 2010, 11:34:02 AM »
Is this for the 1-3 cup Chemex? ($25.68 at Amazon)
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« Reply #52 on: November 03, 2010, 12:11:02 PM »
Good question. Maybe Keith can answer some questions tonight when he's off of work. I plan on using the Kone with my 8 cup chemex. I think Keith can probably address how his kone differs from a gold cone filter since he experimented with multiple ways to do brew coffee but wasn't happy with any of them.

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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #53 on: November 03, 2010, 01:18:35 PM »
Good question. Maybe Keith can answer some questions tonight when he's off of work. I plan on using the Kone with my 8 cup chemex. I think Keith can probably address how his kone differs from a gold cone filter since he experimented with multiple ways to do brew coffee but wasn't happy with any of them.

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Ahh I see the 8 cup version has the proper filter holder. At least you can pick up a chemex for $36  ;)
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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #54 on: November 03, 2010, 01:49:47 PM »
Good question. Maybe Keith can answer some questions tonight when he's off of work. I plan on using the Kone with my 8 cup chemex. I think Keith can probably address how his kone differs from a gold cone filter since he experimented with multiple ways to do brew coffee but wasn't happy with any of them.

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Ahh I see the 8 cup version has the proper filter holder. At least you can pick up a chemex for $36  ;)

What makes you so set against this thing, without having tried it?  Those who have seem to think it's worthwhile.  But you're willing to poo-poo right off the bat. 
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« Reply #55 on: November 03, 2010, 01:52:14 PM »
Good question. Maybe Keith can answer some questions tonight when he's off of work. I plan on using the Kone with my 8 cup chemex. I think Keith can probably address how his kone differs from a gold cone filter since he experimented with multiple ways to do brew coffee but wasn't happy with any of them.

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Ahh I see the 8 cup version has the proper filter holder. At least you can pick up a chemex for $36  ;)

What makes you so set against this thing, without having tried it?  Those who have seem to think it's worthwhile.  But you're willing to poo-poo right off the bat. 

It's very simple Peter, ready?.....$50 for a piece of bent foil. I don't care if it's made by monks at the top of Mt. Everest I don't see how a cone of metal should be more than $10
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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #56 on: November 03, 2010, 01:59:32 PM »
Good question. Maybe Keith can answer some questions tonight when he's off of work. I plan on using the Kone with my 8 cup chemex. I think Keith can probably address how his kone differs from a gold cone filter since he experimented with multiple ways to do brew coffee but wasn't happy with any of them.

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Ahh I see the 8 cup version has the proper filter holder. At least you can pick up a chemex for $36  ;)

What makes you so set against this thing, without having tried it?  Those who have seem to think it's worthwhile.  But you're willing to poo-poo right off the bat. 

It's very simple Peter, ready?.....$50 for a piece of bent foil. I don't care if it's made by monks at the top of Mt. Everest I don't see how a cone of metal should be more than $10

The dude explained in a very forthright manner what his manufacturing costs are and with our discount he's not banking much if anything.  Just because you think it's a piece of bent foil and shouldn't cost more than $10, doesn't mean a thing.

So, you're against this thing because you feel people are being scammed.  That's very valiant of you, protector of the poor masses who are all to willing to open their wallets.

But...  if the guys costs are genuine (and you should be at least a wee bit appreciative that he's wanting to produce it here and not in China) and it produces a better cup, why not let the Kone stand on it's own merit and not be Mr. Negative?
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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #57 on: November 03, 2010, 02:05:08 PM »
Good question. Maybe Keith can answer some questions tonight when he's off of work. I plan on using the Kone with my 8 cup chemex. I think Keith can probably address how his kone differs from a gold cone filter since he experimented with multiple ways to do brew coffee but wasn't happy with any of them.

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Ahh I see the 8 cup version has the proper filter holder. At least you can pick up a chemex for $36  ;)

What makes you so set against this thing, without having tried it?  Those who have seem to think it's worthwhile.  But you're willing to poo-poo right off the bat. 

It's very simple Peter, ready?.....$50 for a piece of bent foil. I don't care if it's made by monks at the top of Mt. Everest I don't see how a cone of metal should be more than $10

The dude explained in a very forthright manner what his manufacturing costs are and with our discount he's not banking much if anything.  Just because you think it's a piece of bent foil and shouldn't cost more than $10, doesn't mean a thing.

So, you're against this thing because you feel people are being scammed.  That's very valiant of you, protector of the poor masses who are all to willing to open their wallets.

But...  if the guys costs are genuine (and you should be at least a wee bit appreciative that he's wanting to produce it here and not in China) and it produces a better cup, why not let the Kone stand on it's own merit and not be Mr. Negative?

I don't care if it's the best pour over ever made - $50 is a lot to spend for something that's going to be at best, only marginally better than my $3 Melitta pour over. Of course, I think all of your pour over guys are nuts anyway - espresso is the only way to make real coffee! ;D

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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #58 on: November 03, 2010, 02:13:13 PM »
$50 may seem like a lot, but think of the possibilities


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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #59 on: November 03, 2010, 02:14:33 PM »
Good question. Maybe Keith can answer some questions tonight when he's off of work. I plan on using the Kone with my 8 cup chemex. I think Keith can probably address how his kone differs from a gold cone filter since he experimented with multiple ways to do brew coffee but wasn't happy with any of them.

Mark

Ahh I see the 8 cup version has the proper filter holder. At least you can pick up a chemex for $36  ;)

What makes you so set against this thing, without having tried it?  Those who have seem to think it's worthwhile.  But you're willing to poo-poo right off the bat.  

It's very simple Peter, ready?.....$50 for a piece of bent foil. I don't care if it's made by monks at the top of Mt. Everest I don't see how a cone of metal should be more than $10

The dude explained in a very forthright manner what his manufacturing costs are and with our discount he's not banking much if anything.  Just because you think it's a piece of bent foil and shouldn't cost more than $10, doesn't mean a thing.

So, you're against this thing because you feel people are being scammed.  That's very valiant of you, protector of the poor masses who are all to willing to open their wallets.

But...  if the guys costs are genuine (and you should be at least a wee bit appreciative that he's wanting to produce it here and not in China) and it produces a better cup, why not let the Kone stand on it's own merit and not be Mr. Negative?

I don't care if it's the best pour over ever made - $50 is a lot to spend for something that's going to be at best, only marginally better than my $3 Melitta pour over. Of course, I think all of your pour over guys are nuts anyway - espresso is the only way to make real coffee! ;D

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