Author Topic: Full - Traveling Road Show: Orphan Espresso - Hand Grinder, OE LIDO  (Read 35611 times)

BoldJava

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Re: Full - Traveling Road Show: Orphan Espresso - Hand Grinder, OE LIDO
« Reply #75 on: March 12, 2012, 03:44:24 PM »
Let's see, 'have grinder, will travel.'

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Re: Full - Traveling Road Show: Orphan Espresso - Hand Grinder, OE LIDO
« Reply #76 on: March 12, 2012, 03:45:38 PM »
Top view, looking down into burr

BoldJava

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Re: Full - Traveling Road Show: Orphan Espresso - Hand Grinder, OE LIDO
« Reply #77 on: March 12, 2012, 03:46:43 PM »
Short or long handle...

BoldJava

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Re: Full - Traveling Road Show: Orphan Espresso - Hand Grinder, OE LIDO
« Reply #78 on: March 12, 2012, 03:48:16 PM »
Accessories.  Looks like a solder brush and a rubber strip.  The strip really comes in handy.  Use it as a landing/grounding strip, lean the grinder at a 70* angle and crank.
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Re: Full - Traveling Road Show: Orphan Espresso - Hand Grinder, OE LIDO
« Reply #79 on: March 12, 2012, 03:48:53 PM »
We landed Lido #002.  It is etched onto a strut in the base of the unit, though not readable here.


While we are here, let's describe the adjustment.  The brass washer is the "0" point.  I have this backed off a full two counterclockwise rotations (360 x 2) to achieve a grind that mimics my pourover grind.
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Re: Full - Traveling Road Show: Orphan Espresso - Hand Grinder, OE LIDO
« Reply #80 on: March 12, 2012, 03:56:28 PM »
Initial impressions:


  • Hefty but not bulky.  Ideal size for my hands.  2.26 lbs.
  • Much smoother turning/grinding than the Pharos (of which I wasn't a fan).
  • So much more substantial feel to it than the Hario Skerton (at 4x's the cost, granted)
  • Very well crafted.  All the parts are machined well and the grinder is a "tight" package
I ran several 10 gram amounts through the grinder and enjoyed using it (in contrast to my Pharos experience).  Just trying to get any machining oils out of the machine today, get a feel for it.  Initial impressions is that it throws less fines than does the Hario.

I will use it for a variety of grinds this week, espresso to press pot and provide some feedback.  I think OE has a winner here.


I like it.  Lots.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2012, 04:09:03 PM by BoldJava »

jbviau

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Re: Full - Traveling Road Show: Orphan Espresso - Hand Grinder, OE LIDO
« Reply #81 on: March 12, 2012, 07:12:26 PM »
Nice pics! And two is my lucky number (no joke). Looking forward to reading everyone's impressions...

BoldJava

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Re: Full - Traveling Road Show: Orphan Espresso - Hand Grinder, OE LIDO
« Reply #82 on: March 13, 2012, 06:00:51 AM »
Used the Lido to grind 39g for the Yama 5-cup.  Plenty of room in the Lido for the amount of coffee.  I will do the 68 grams (8 cup) in it this weekend.

Time needed for 39g?  Two minutes of grinding.
Yield?  39 grams, no retention.
Grounds?  I use a "pourover minus" grind for vacpot (tighten ~ 10%).   Grounds were very similar to those ground from my Macap 4 (58mm).  Some fines but not excessive.
Cup?  Excellent.  No over-extraction taste at all.
Sludge in cup?  None.
Sludge in pot?  1/2 a dime's worth, identical to Macap 4.


Thoughts?
1.  I thought it would take longer to grind 40gr.
2.  Very smooth grind, unlike the Pharos which works in fits and jerks for me.  I have hand arthritis in the winter and this grinding action presented no challenge.
3.  Easy to see progress.
4.  Rubber strip - don't misplace it.  It serves as a non-slip surface on the granite countertop for grinding.  (I am going to bring home a mouse pad from work to see if that won't serve the same purpose).
5.  Some grinds (mainly chaff) retention on base due to static.  I used my counter brush to sweep them off.
6.  I will try this again tomorrow when the humidifier is refilled and see if it impacts the retention.

Really like it.
« Last Edit: March 13, 2012, 06:03:59 AM by BoldJava »

Ray T

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Re: Full - Traveling Road Show: Orphan Espresso - Hand Grinder, OE LIDO
« Reply #83 on: March 13, 2012, 01:36:27 PM »
Great write up Dave along with the GREAT photos hows it do with pepper ?

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Re: Full - Traveling Road Show: Orphan Espresso - Hand Grinder, OE LIDO
« Reply #84 on: March 14, 2012, 04:00:56 PM »
Take me off the list. I don't want pepper in my grinder:)

I couldn't resist ordering one!

BoldJava

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Re: Full - Traveling Road Show: Orphan Espresso - Hand Grinder, OE LIDO
« Reply #85 on: March 14, 2012, 04:02:21 PM »
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I couldn't resist ordering one!

I think you are going to find that it is an excellent piece of equipment.

B|Java

Ray T

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Re: Full - Traveling Road Show: Orphan Espresso - Hand Grinder, OE LIDO
« Reply #86 on: March 15, 2012, 09:25:19 AM »
Take me off the list. I don't want pepper in my grinder:)

I couldn't resist ordering one!

Pepper won't be bad it's the Wisconsin mochahazelnutvanillacherrymintalafroufrou blend thats hard to get out. The pepper just adds a little zip to your cuppa

BoldJava

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Re: Full - Traveling Road Show: Orphan Espresso - Hand Grinder, OE LIDO
« Reply #87 on: March 24, 2012, 05:50:42 AM »
I need to get this in the post to Ray this morning.  Sorry for taking an extra week but I was out of town in Michigan with a funeral.  I am unable to take the handle off and will leave that to craftsman Ray. Only hand tightened but she is on there.  I didn't want to mar the shaft in an effort to get the handle off.

More observations:


Upper chamber will hold about 70 grams.

1.  Much less static cling with the furnace off.  Still some minimal retained in the upper chamber (chaff from the coffee) and grounds in the lower.  Negligible and not an issue.
2.  Now and then, the coffee needs to be shaken in the chamber for continued flow.  Not a big deal.
3.  Upper chamber needs to rest on its side after you have unscrewed the ground coffee chamber.
4.  The adjustment is a multi-finger operation.  You need to hold in place the black arrowed grind level indicator.  Then, unscrew the wing nut that is the ultimate lock on grind level.  Take your time. Very straight forward.  Read the instruction sheet, RTFM.

Final thoughts
1.  Grinder is superb quality. 
2.  Grinder throws a few fines, comparable to my 58mm Macap 4, at the press pot level.
3.  If I were in the market for a hand grinder, I would grab this in a second as a life time investment.
4.  Minor, occasional popcorning of splits flying out the top.   

What needs to be done yet on our review?
1.  Someone compare it to the Kyocera and Hario hand grinders; the Zass and Pe'de as well.
2.  Someone go after an espresso grind.  I am just out of time.

Suggested settings for a beginning point -- these worked well for me:
1.  1.5-1.75 for a pourover
2.  2.25 for press pot.

I returned it to zero.  Let's do that so all have the same starting point.

B|Java
« Last Edit: March 24, 2012, 06:52:04 AM by BoldJava »

Ray T

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Re: Full - Traveling Road Show: Orphan Espresso - Hand Grinder, OE LIDO
« Reply #88 on: March 29, 2012, 03:04:55 PM »
Arrived today, took it for a spin with some Lionsgate natural at 1 1/4 turns  from 0 for a Areopress cup,felt about right on the plunge. I will get the  Hario out of the RV tomorrow and play some more.
So far it's a KEEPER.
To get the handle off I just pinched the shaft with my fingers a little and applied the Righty Tighty Lefty Loosy Theory . Came right off  ;)

 

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Re: Full - Traveling Road Show: Orphan Espresso - Hand Grinder, OE LIDO
« Reply #89 on: March 29, 2012, 03:17:30 PM »
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So far it's a KEEPER.

Couldn't agree more.
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To get the handle off I just pinched the shaft with my fingers a little and applied the Righty Tighty Lefty Loosy Theory . Came right off  ;)


Gee, I was using the righty loosy, lefty tighty.  Now I see.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2012, 03:19:30 PM by BoldJava »