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Re: Fiorenzata Bricoletta
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2017, 11:09:47 AM »
That's just weird that the water level sensor works, but somehow lets too much water into the boiler.

As for the group, it may not be a pressure issue, but a flow/volume issue.  Check the lines from the boiler to the group.

Yep, learning a little more about the mechanics of hx which I hope is not leaking into the boiler. From what I've been able to find on the forums, if hx leaks into boiler tank that could be the cause of overfill but not sure why sensor wouldn't compensate for that. Looks like the group is fed from a separate line from the pump that flows through the hx. Gonna disconnect all lines to tank to see if there are any restrictions.
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Re: Fiorenzata Bricoletta
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2017, 09:28:47 AM »
Bad news from shop today, the hx is leaking into the boiler causing the problem. Can get a new boiler/hx for 265 shipped...more to come.
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Re: Fiorenzata Bricoletta
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2017, 02:03:35 PM »
Bad news from shop today, the hx is leaking into the boiler causing the problem. Can get a new boiler/hx for 265 shipped...more to come.

Sorry to hear that! On the other hand, you now know what it is.

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Re: Fiorenzata Bricoletta
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2017, 03:04:34 PM »
Bad news from shop today, the hx is leaking into the boiler causing the problem. Can get a new boiler/hx for 265 shipped...more to come.

should have got the Elektra... But the boiler on the Elektra was $800 to replace, I got mine from a spare for free.  So at least the cost is cheaper.

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Re: Fiorenzata Bricoletta
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2017, 06:37:29 AM »
Bad news from shop today, the hx is leaking into the boiler causing the problem. Can get a new boiler/hx for 265 shipped...more to come.

should have got the Elektra... But the boiler on the Elektra was $800 to replace, I got mine from a spare for free.  So at least the cost is cheaper.
Yeah, that Electra was very tempting but just too far away. After pulling the boiler, I visually confirmed the problem by looking through heating element hole. There was a small crack about 3/8" long in the HX along with a small bulge in that area of the HX. Maybe this machine was left in freezing conditions? Anything else that may have caused it to rupture? I have no previous history on this machine.
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Re: Fiorenzata Bricoletta
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2017, 02:35:44 PM »
Bad news from shop today, the hx is leaking into the boiler causing the problem. Can get a new boiler/hx for 265 shipped...more to come.

should have got the Elektra... But the boiler on the Elektra was $800 to replace, I got mine from a spare for free.  So at least the cost is cheaper.
Yeah, that Electra was very tempting but just too far away. After pulling the boiler, I visually confirmed the problem by looking through heating element hole. There was a small crack about 3/8" long in the HX along with a small bulge in that area of the HX. Maybe this machine was left in freezing conditions? Anything else that may have caused it to rupture? I have no previous history on this machine.

Hmm ... maybe it was used heavily?

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Re: Fiorenzata Bricoletta
« Reply #21 on: Yesterday at 06:01:39 AM »
Here is a picture of the crack.
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Re: Fiorenzata Bricoletta
« Reply #22 on: Yesterday at 08:27:00 AM »
Wow! Looks like a blaring crack.

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Re: Fiorenzata Bricoletta
« Reply #23 on: Yesterday at 09:23:19 AM »
Duct tape to the rescue!
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Re: Fiorenzata Bricoletta
« Reply #24 on: Yesterday at 09:33:42 AM »
Duct tape to the rescue!

Hmm, that may actually work! I wonder how long it would hold up? On the other hand, that is made out of aluminum, is it not?

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Re: Fiorenzata Bricoletta
« Reply #25 on: Yesterday at 09:36:36 AM »
Jb weld. Hahaha. You could take it to a welder but i bet the metal is compromised

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Re: Fiorenzata Bricoletta
« Reply #26 on: Yesterday at 09:50:59 AM »
Jb weld. Hahaha. You could take it to a welder but i bet the metal is compromised

Good point!

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Re: Fiorenzata Bricoletta
« Reply #27 on: Yesterday at 10:24:24 AM »
The orientation and bulge around that crack are highly suggestive of freezing. Good that you ordered a new boiler.
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Re: Fiorenzata Bricoletta
« Reply #28 on: Yesterday at 10:28:52 AM »
The orientation and bulge around that crack are highly suggestive of freezing. Good that you ordered a new boiler.

Agreed! Better to start off new.

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