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Vendor Discussion Boards => old Traveling road shows => Topic started by: BoldJava on August 05, 2012, 06:27:46 AM
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Need 9 players, $5.49 each. Closed at 8 with unanimous approval. $6.25 each. Comes with a B|Java Corning rod (rare -- from the late '30s) for filtering the coffee. (Note: Need a quality grinder to use the glass filter -- if not, use the cotton filter provided with the set.)
We went on an absolute craze with vacpots about 4 years ago. Lots of new members since then so let's see if we can fill a road show. Complete instructions are here at:
(1) http://coffeegeek.com/reviews/vacpots/yamavacpots/BoldJava/5238 (http://coffeegeek.com/reviews/vacpots/yamavacpots/BoldJava/5238) and
(2) http://www.greencoffeebuyingclub.com/index.php?topic=4246.0 (http://www.greencoffeebuyingclub.com/index.php?topic=4246.0) (20-some pages of vacpots talk)
A Yama vacpot is my daily prep. Prepares a superbly clean cup with clarity in structure and flavor. Putsy. Fascinating to watch. Old-fashioned, the way many of our grandparents and great-grandparents made coffee.
No money now. I will have a new Yama 5-cup unit shipped to the 1st person on the list. Keep it a week and then ship it on. Once we have 9 members ready to toss in $5.49, I will let you know. I will ship the glass rod as well. I'll ask JSpain to have Patti pick a number and place the winner last on the list. Keep the vacpot for a week and then ship on to the next person.
Easy. Peasy. Sign-up on the thread.
8 Members. Who will be first?
2. BeKeld, pd
3. JBViau, pd
4. Cammie, pd
5. MMW, pd
6. Richdel, pd
7. Pozzska, pd
8. Reddy K
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1. FFFolks, pd
(http://prima-coffee.com/sites/default/files/Yama-5-Cup-Stovetop.jpg)
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I'm in!
This is great timing for me, I have been dying to try a vacpot. Thanks for instigating this!
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I gotta say, now that I have the glass rod filter my vac pot quality is much better. It takes a bit of experimentation to get the temp/brew time thing right, but once you are dialed in the coffee is among the best out there. Jump in on this guys and have some fun!
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Yay!! I bought a vac pot for my daughter-in-law, but have never tried it myself. Please add me to the list. :)
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I'm in as well, please! However, I refuse to win; my luck's been too good around here, and someone else deserves a turn. ;)
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In please...I've been curious about these.
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...Comes with a B|Java Corning rod (rare -- from the late '30s) for filtering the coffee. (Note: Need a quality grinder to use the glass filter -- if not, use the cotton filter provided with the set.)
p.s. How "quality" are we talking about?
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I would say any conical burr grinder would work just fine. I use a Baratza Maestro which used to be there entry level model. A whirly-blade or faux-burr grinder will create lots of fines which will stall the drawdown.
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....I use a Baratza Maestro which used to be there entry level model. A whirly-blade or faux-burr grinder will create lots of fines which will stall the drawdown.
I second Dave's thoughts. Baratza's low-end entry grinder and above should be just fine.
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Put me down please-- Mrs MMW can't kill if I'm supposed to get rid of it, right?
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Put me down please-- Mrs MMW can't kill if I'm supposed to get rid of it, right?
Got you. 4 to go.
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What happens when (not if) a contestant receives a box of broken glass? ;)
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Oh ye of little faith...
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Bump in order to gather more people.
Only time I saw one in action live was when my daughter-in-law made coffee for me at the supper when I met her parents. She had the heat too high I think, and the coffee exploded inside the vac pot as it moved from top to bottom. :o Whole shebang jumped up on the stove.
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What happens when (not if) a contestant receives a box of broken glass? ;)
The Wisconsin ironclad warranty clearly states you get to keep all the bits & pieces. ;D
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No vac-pot in my coffee prepping arsenal.
Can't say I have ever had a cup prepared from a vac-pot either.
Been wondering what all the fuss is about.
I guess for a little more then a Lincoln, I can find out!
Please sign me up.
Thanks!
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Richdel makes 6... who will be 7, 8, & 9?
Come on in and take yer chances!
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Need just 3 more. Includes a Corning rod, fit for a King/Queen.
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No vac-pot in my coffee prepping arsenal.
Can't say I have ever had a cup prepared from a vac-pot either.
Been wondering what all the fuss is about.
I guess for a little more then a Lincoln, I can find out!
Please sign me up.
Thanks!
If you have never tried a vac pot you MUST get on board with this road show! 4 years ago this brew method was a change in my everyday brewing. It is my GO TO everyday cup of coffee prep! The only thing that has changed my love of coffee greater is to be able to roast my own greens! You will not regret jumping on board with a vacpot!
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I'm in.
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Need two more adventuresome souls to get in on the road show so B|Java can get the show on the road!
Who's in?
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Yes, have a Corning filter all set to go.
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I will play along.
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Need one more and it's a wrap. I will also do the math this evening and see if the "8" wish to cut this off and get it moving.
B|Java
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OK, all 8 players said, "Fly with 8."
Come in with $6.25 each to boldjava at sidewalkmystic dot com. I will order the unit in the morning and have it sent to number 1 on the list after Jim Spain has Patti pick a number.
Once all are paid, I will announce the number and that person drops to the bottom but keeps the unit.
Thanks all, B|Java
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Paid. Thanks!
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*does doggy dance of joy*. Yay!
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*does doggy dance of joy*. Yay!
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Paid.
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Paid
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David,
Patti, "the boss" say, "!"!!!!!!!!
Enjoy, jim
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Congrats, FFFolks.
Of course Patti picked (+1). I sent the Corning rod to FFFolks with his vintage diner mugs. Already on the way via USPS.
OK, I will have the Yama 5-cup sent to Bekled. FFFolks, can you send her the glass road as soon as you get it? I will PM you her address.
B|Java
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Grats FFFolks!
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The great thing about winning is that now I don't have to worry about breaking it! I will be happy to forward along the glass rod when I get it and I hope everyone enjoys playing with the Vac Pot. :)
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5 cup vacpot, stovetop model, shipped to Bekeld this a.m. Enjoy, all. Yell if you have questions. In the meantime, buy a rice paddle and read up:
http://coffeegeek.com/reviews/vacpots/yamavacpots/BoldJava/5238 (http://coffeegeek.com/reviews/vacpots/yamavacpots/BoldJava/5238)
One added word of advice. An 1.5 oz of water remains on the bottom of the pot, even when all other water has ascended. Don't get anal about it. Think in terms of how an Americano adds water to an extracted shot. Not an operator issue but rather how it is designed to hold heat at a constant.
B|Java
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I will make sure there's a rice paddle in the box when I send it on. They're easy to find if you have Oriental stores in the area.
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The Yama has landed on my desk. More later ;D
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I spoke too soon. The box contained the Buffalo cups from B|Cupman
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Now the Yama has landed! Everything is in good order. This is Homecoming week at school and I'm a class sponsor so will have to wait until this weekend to putz with it.
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Wow.
Finally made a pot using the tail end of the Sumatra/Kona blend that I had roasted a week ago. I figured that the result wouldn't taste good since the roast was a week old and I had kinda pooched the Kona part--tipped beans. :(
My husband really liked the coffee out of the Yama. Yay! Ground at 18 on the Virtuoso. Used the Corning rod that came today. B|Yama's instructions on CoffeeGeek are very clear.
The Yama makes a very clean cup. I want to use it on the Compass berrylusciousness that I roasted to see if the fruit comes through.
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...Ground at 18 on the Virtuoso. Used the Corning rod that came today...
Noted that the Virtuoso works with a vacpot -- not throwing fines. Great news.
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fffolks sent me the Corning rod to use with the Yama. Imagine my surprise when this arrived. Good thing that Alan put miles of pink bubble wrap around the rod...
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fffolks sent me the Corning rod to use with the Yama. Imagine my surprise when this arrived. Good thing that Alan put miles of pink bubble wrap around the rod...
A glass rod in the Yama is the only way to fly. Have fun!
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The Yama landed in Baltimore today in perfect shape (thanks). Will try it out tomorrow!
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Wow.
Finally made a pot using the tail end of the Sumatra/Kona blend that I had roasted a week ago.
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Reviews, comments, learnings, first looks, etc. are all invited from participants.
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I'm not sure what I think about vacuum brewing overall.
Visually, the Yama is cute. Compact, brews enough for two big mugs--it's all good. The cup was clear, but I just didn't care for the cup. I thought that the fault was in the bean. I used a Kona that I roasted first. It was OK, but I felt the same way with this bean in my espresso preparation. So I got some roasted berrylusciousness from Compass Roasting to try. I felt that same way about the cup. The only thing I can think of is perhaps that I prefer a 'thicker' cup. I probably will get my own brewer and give it a longer try with different beans. I have had a vacuum siphon cup of coffee from my daughter-in-law, and I enjoyed that. She has a Bodum Santos with a cloth filter.
As to the process, it was easy with B|Yama's guiding from his CG evaluation. The instructions with the brewer were a bit lacking.
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I'm not sure what I think about vacuum brewing overall.
Visually, the Yama is cute. Compact, brews enough for two big mugs--it's all good. The cup was clear, but I just didn't care for the cup. I thought that the fault was in the bean. I used a Kona that I roasted first. It was OK, but I felt the same way with this bean in my espresso preparation...
I have found that the vacpot presents the clearest expression of a coffee (for me) about 90% of the time. With the other 10%, a KONE pourover trumps a vacpot by a wide margin. I don't know how to account for that difference. There is no rhyme or reason to it; origin, elevation, processing, etc.
B|Java
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Is body in coffee dependent on the bean, roasting, preparation method, or some mixture of the previous?
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All of them.
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You're a lot of help.
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Should the coffee take @two minutes to travel from top to bottom? If the time is less--as much as 30 seconds-- would that result in a "thin bodied" cup?
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Should the coffee take @two minutes to travel from top to bottom? If the time is less--as much as 30 seconds-- would that result in a "thin bodied" cup?
Yes. Should take minute and 3/4s or close to two to travel south. It's in your grind. The 5-cup runs faster than an 8-cup but 30 seconds would give you a thinner cup. It also might have been your volume of coffee. I always use 40 grams in the 5-cup.
When I started with vacpots, I was in a hurry to get the water down. I learned along the way that the time to descend is an integral part of the steep process and my wish for a past descent was way wrong. Watch the grind and slow it down.
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I have to apologize for holdings things up here. Blame the road show Brazen, which arrived the day after the Yama did! Long story short, I was supposed to ship the unit off to Cammie today, but I'll be a day late. Sorry for any inconvenience.
This siphon makes very good coffee. It did take me a while to move from the "experimenting with water" stage to the real deal, but once I did I feel like I almost nailed the brew (using Stumptown's Finca Kilimanjaro) on the first try.
B|Java, your review/walk-through on CG was a big help. Much-appreciated. I went with 42 g. of coffee, as recommended. Drawdown was exactly 2 min. with a grind setting of 18F on the Preciso.
There was one blip, namely that I let temp. in the upper globe get up to 207 at one point--a little higher than I'd planned somehow. Easily fixed by dialing back the gas, but not before a few drops of coffee spattered over the top lip and onto the stovetop. Will have to keep a closer eye on temp. later this afternoon when I go for round #2. There were no overextraction issues that my tongue could detect.
Speaking of temp., without question the coffee I brewed this morning was the hottest I've ever experienced immediately after decanting into a pre-heated mug. Had to give it a minute before sipping.
The glass rod fascinates me. I'm not even going to touch the cotton filter because that rod does such a great job of keeping fines out of the coffee below.
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Enjoy, Cammie. I'm sad to see this go.
For the record, my second try went even more smoothly, as I was able to keep temp. in the upper globe right around 200 the entire time. Coarsened up the grind a touch to 20F and got a shorter drawdown of 90 sec. If I'd had more time to experiment, I suspect I would have ended up splitting the difference re: grind.
Clean-up wasn't as bad as I expected. A dish wand/bottle brush helps.
I wonder how big of a contribution the siphon's stable (or even rising if you're not careful!) temperature profile makes in the cup? Can't think of another full-immersion-style brewer aside from that ridiculous Blossom prototype that doesn't lose heat during the steep.
Speaking of brewers, my everyday gadget is a Bunn Trifecta MB. I was struck by how close the cup quality/character is between that and the Yama (at least when using the glass rod). If I didn't own a Trifecta already and knew what I know now, I'd probably just buy a Yama or similar instead. That's not to say, though, that the cups from both were equivalent; Trifecta brought out more fruit, and Yama made a cup with slightly better structure overall IMO.
Thanks for the opportunity, y'all.
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Enjoy, Cammie. I'm sad to see this go.
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Speaking of brewers, my everyday gadget is a Bunn Trifecta MB. I was struck by how close the cup quality/character is between that and the Yama (at least when using the glass rod). If I didn't own a Trifecta already and knew what I know now, I'd probably just buy a Yama ...
That is a huge statement. $35 vs $2600. 549 (edit, thx). I love my Yamas even more after reading your post <grins>.
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Well, the MB is the home version, so only $549. :o What you're paying for mostly with that machine is convenience and precise, repeatable turbulence settings. I'm not sure the Trifecta does anything that the Yama couldn't do given a patient, skilled operator. Maybe I'm just in the siphon honeymoon phase still...
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^^^ Interesting. Yup, I'm all about the bubbles now. Re: brew temp., I'd really like to see someone measure the slurry in the Trifecta. I suspect the Trifecta's brew chamber is not quite as thermally stable as a siphon's upper globe, but then again it *is* covered (unlike the upper globe). In the cup, at least, siphon coffee is definitely hotter, though I suppose there could be other reasons for that.
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Speaking of bubbles, this video shows you the water temp based on the bubbles and sound in your tea kettle... or siphon.
Mine is an electric stove (boo) with a heat diffuser. I have octopus eyes @206* which sound like Peter's snore.
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Speaking of bubbles, this video shows you the water temp based on the bubbles and sound in your tea kettle... or siphon.
Mine is an electric stove (boo) with a heat diffuser. I have octopus eyes @206* which sound like Peter's snore.
The clock stopped at 4:12pm.
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The vac pot is on the way to MMW. I wish I could update this thread with my experiences and impressions. But, the truth is that I sent the box on its way still unopened. I did not have enough time last week to experiment. Still, I am very interested in this method of preparation and have my own vac pot on the way. I will post some thoughts later.
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The vac pot is on the way to MMW. I wish I could update this thread with my experiences and impressions. But, the truth is that I sent the box on its way still unopened. I did not have enough time last week to experiment. Still, I am very interested in this method of preparation and have my own vac pot on the way. I will post some thoughts later.
Do you have a glass rod also?
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Do you have a glass rod also?
Yes, a glass rod is also on its way :)
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Tried the Yama table top vac pot with the Cory glass rod today.....a beautiful and elegant way to make a very nice cup of coffee. I used 45 grams of the Peru Norte Cenfrocafe Peter distributed. This was a batch that I roasted a bit too dark and had been using for espresso shots in milk based drinks. With the vac pot, the rough edges were smoothed out and I could pick up some of the characteristics I thought lost because of the darker roast. I'll be roasting today and am looking forward to trying the Amaro Gayo and some of the COEs I recently purchased with this brewing method.
As a side note, I think I was overthinking this process. I really is quite simple and I'm sorry I hesitated so long.
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The vacpot + bamboo spoon + glass rod have left Longview and are enroute to DE.
My 9 year old thinks it's the coolest thing ever. :) Mrs. MMW isn't nearly as resistant to owning one now that she has had a cup. "There's a spot in the cabinet where one of those would fit..." ;D
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I have a question concerning heat sources for siphon brewing.
I have a glass top electric range, do I need a diffuser or is it safe to let
the bottom globe sit directly on the glasstop of the range?
Thanks in advance for any input.
Rich C (awaiting answers anxiously since the Traveling Roadshow 5 cup
siphon brewer just arrived at my home today.).
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First pot of coffee from the Yama for me.
4 cups of Ethiopian Limu, bought from a local roaster and roasted
on 11/16/2012.
4 cup line on the bottom globe of water, and 33 grams of the the Limu.
Waited until temp in the bottom globe reached 185*, pulled from the burner
and attached top globe with the 33g of Limu, back onto the burner. Never fully emptied the bottom globe of water, although it was bubbling away. Pulled the
Yama after several minutes. Didn't time the drop from top to bottom, I would say
it was 2-3 minutes. Used the same grind setting I am using for the AP with
the old ABLE 008 filter.
Hottest cup of coffee I have enjoyed in quite some time! Very rich, full body, not
over extracted at all. Certainly not bitter. Not sure why I expected a taste closer
to my mothers old percolator, but I am happy I did not get that. It is a really good cup. Can't wait to try it with the Panama Elida and Brazil Fazenda Raininha combo I roasted for the holidays. Cleanup is a breeze thanks to the lack of filter. The glass rod did its work well, as there seems to be very little silt/fines in the resulting cup.
Overall, thumbs up from my perspective. Enough so that it might actually warrant a purchase. More to come in the next few days.
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Waited until temp in the bottom globe reached 185*, pulled from the burner
and attached top globe with the 33g of Limu, back onto the burner. Never fully emptied the bottom globe of water, although it was bubbling away. Pulled the
Yama after several minutes.
There will always be some water in the bottom to keep it from boiling itself dry.
I put the entire unit on the stove over medium heat, and let the water go north, turn down the heat and add the coffee, set the timer for 2min., then remove from the burner. If the water is on top before adding coffee, you won't have less-than-optimal-temp water hitting the coffee as it begins it's ascent.
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Waited until temp in the bottom globe reached 185*
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I let it run to about ~198* and then put the top on carefully, never removing from the stove.
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Waited until temp in the bottom globe reached 185*, pulled from the burner
and attached top globe with the 33g of Limu, back onto the burner. Never fully emptied the bottom globe of water, although it was bubbling away. Pulled the
Yama after several minutes.
There will always be some water in the bottom to keep it from boiling itself dry.
I put the entire unit on the stove over medium heat, and let the water go north, turn down the heat and add the coffee, set the timer for 2min., then remove from the burner. If the water is on top before adding coffee, you won't have less-than-optimal-temp water hitting the coffee as it begins it's ascent.
That sounds like a winning upgrade to me. Seems to simplify the timing element of this process as well as the "when is the temp right" question. Wait for the water to all head north, add coffee to the top, stir wait two minutes remove from heat, time the descent. Thanks Peter, this will be added to tomorrow mornings brew session.
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Waited until temp in the bottom globe reached 185*
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I let it run to about ~198* and then put the top on carefully, never removing from the stove.
Why not put it on assembled w/ water in it?
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I need to break out my Yama I haven't used it in a while.
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Why not put it on assembled w/ water in it?
Because the water will begin to ascend at 145* and mislead when to add the coffee. I know which kind of bubbles/bubble agitation to look for and then add the top. You can certainly do it with the top already on but a frequent thermometer check is called for to assure that you aren't dropping the coffee prematurely.
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Why not put it on assembled w/ water in it?
Because the water will begin to ascend at 145* and mislead when to add the coffee. I know which kind of bubbles/bubble agitation to look for and then add the top. You can certainly do it with the top already on but a frequent thermometer check is called for to assure that you aren't dropping the coffee prematurely.
I see what you're saying, and generally wait for the water to be on top for a couple minutes so that its temp is stabilized.
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Why not put it on assembled w/ water in it?
Because the water will begin to ascend at 145* and mislead when to add the coffee. I know which kind of bubbles/bubble agitation to look for and then add the top. You can certainly do it with the top already on but a frequent thermometer check is called for to assure that you aren't dropping the coffee prematurely.
I see what you're saying, and generally wait for the water to be on top for a couple minutes so that its temp is stabilized.
Check it with a thermometer now and again to make sure your approach puts you temp. It takes a while to get up to appropriate extraction temp.
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Why not put it on assembled w/ water in it?
Because the water will begin to ascend at 145* and mislead when to add the coffee. I know which kind of bubbles/bubble agitation to look for and then add the top. You can certainly do it with the top already on but a frequent thermometer check is called for to assure that you aren't dropping the coffee prematurely.
I see what you're saying, and generally wait for the water to be on top for a couple minutes so that its temp is stabilized.
Check it with a thermometer now and again to make sure your approach puts you temp. It takes a while to get up to appropriate extraction temp.
And as you stated earlier, you add the coffee, stir then put the lid on when the water in the top globe reaches ~198*. Heading to the kitchen as I finish typing this.
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No.
Water in the bottom achieves 198*. Carefully place dome on. Let water ascend, add coffee, dunk with rice spoon, steep for 1:45 min at temp, pull from heat.
See the first post. I have a link to CoffeeGeek for further info.
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And as you stated earlier, you add the coffee, stir then put the lid on when the water in the top globe reaches ~198*. Heading to the kitchen as I finish typing this.
This post really confused me it sounds like you intended to put the coffee in the bottom pot. ???
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Water in the bottom achieves 198*. Carefully place dome on. Let water ascend, add coffee, dunk with rice spoon, steep for 1:45 min at temp, pull from heat.
See the first post. I have a link to CoffeeGeek for further info.
Yes, that's what I did. I was using the Thermapen in the bottom globe, but mistyped and said top globe. The cup of coffee this morning was excellent. Really the best cup of coffee I have had in quite some time. I have been looking to replace the AP, and I guess I have my answer on what will replace it. I will need the 8c model, as the 5c model barely makes enough for Mrs Richdel and I. The next two purchases have been confirmed I guess, Gort and the 8c Yama! Merry Christmas to me.
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Good job Rich. Best price on a shipped 8-cupper is on Amazon.
B|Java
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Enjoying another cup of the Ethiopian Limu as I finish up making our traditional
Thanksgiving stuffing. A recipe from Epicurous Food 15 years backs, New England Sausage, Apple and Dried Cranberry Stuffing. Takes a bit of effort to make, mostly in the prep, so its best to get it done the day before. The stuffing has become a big hit at our home during the Thanksgiving feast.
This cup of Limu is quite the reward for a task well done!
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Another outrageously good siphon pot this morning with breakfast.
13 grams each of: Panama Elida, Ethiopian Harar FTO, and Brazil Fazenda Raininha.
This cup was very sweet. All coffees were 7 days post roast. Shortened the prep time this morning by adding 5c of water at 200* from the Pino Kettle. Coffee was quickly in the mug and being enjoyed, just minutes after the turkey was placed in the oven.
With the Yama showing up earlier this week, the 10c Espro has found its way off the shelf. Cleanup on the Yama seems easier then then the Espro, but the capacity of the Espro makes it my go to pot for the larger crowd.
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Another outrageously good siphon pot this morning with breakfast.
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With the Yama showing up earlier this week, the 10c Espro has found its way off the shelf. Cleanup on the Yama seems easier then then the Espro, but the capacity of the Espro makes it my go to pot for the larger crowd.
I share your tastes. Two of the best ways to prepare the coffee we roast.
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Ive enjoyed the Yama this last week. More detailed update to come when I'm at a real computer.
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The Yama arrived home today and I am excited to try it out tomorrow morning! Thanks to everyone who participated and took such good care of it for me. I will give it a wrap up report when I test it out.
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The Yama arrived home today and I am excited to try it out tomorrow morning! Thanks to everyone who participated and took such good care of it for me. I will give it a wrap up report when I test it out.
...and thanks to all members for keeping the Yama moving. Not one bump reminder needed. Good on the club.
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Having grown up drinking grandma's coffee made with her wedding gift Silex, I'm always interested in first-time vac pot users reactions. It's not necessarily the best coffee maker, and there are certainly simpler coffee makers, but the sense of magic from these makes for a special coffee event.
Just be careful not to stall the brew, and be aware that some folks advocate using a damp cloth to unstall a failed brew - and that other folks have reported shattered bottom pots when a damp cloth is used.
Looking forward to your review! :)
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Damp cloths are verboten. If it stalls, put it on a cold back burner and go to work. It will work itself out.
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I brewed my first pot in the Yama this morning and my only regret is that I didn't try it sooner. I had concerns that it would be too fussy, but with Dave's CG instructions it turned out to be simple and fun. I love the process and most of all the cup it produced. I have been drinking an Ethiopian Sidama Deri Kochoha for the last few days that I had roasted to a C+. It's a coffee that I'm familiar with and had been tweaking the brewing parameters in the Beehouse and I thought I was getting all that I could out of it, but the vacuum pot gave me more. It was sweeter, brighter and all of the flavors were more defined. I used a vintage PeDe "88" for the grind and must have had some beginners luck because I hit all of the brew times as instructed and I'm not sure that the coffee could have been any better. As I generally am up 3 or 4 hours before I have to leave for work, I can see myself using the Yama every day. Thanks again to everyone for participating, I'm not sure I would have tried this without the roadshow.
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...but with Dave's CG instructions it turned out to be simple and fun. I love the process and most of all the cup it produced.
Glad it helped. Guests are always fascinated by a vacpot. Most of our grandparents (great-grandparents for some members) used vacpots.
...I thought I was getting all that I could out of it, but the vacuum pot gave me more. It was sweeter, brighter and all of the flavors were more defined.
Very well expressed. On occasion, I bump into a coffee that just doesn't measure up in the vacuum pot. I can't explain it. Not variety, origin, or processing related. Love to compare a coffee head to head from pourvers to vacpots.
I can see myself using the Yama every day. Thanks again to everyone for participating, I'm not sure I would have tried this without the roadshow.
Road show purpose served. Cup on!
B|Java