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Coffee Discussion boards => Hardware & Equipment => Topic started by: thcoffee on July 31, 2016, 10:16:25 AM
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My Technivorm Moccamaster just died this morning. It will not power up. I have had it for about 7 years and sent it back to them several years ago for the same problem. I do not remember but I am thinking they repaired it for $75 but I had to pay shipping.
Part of the top of the reservoir is broke off (maid broke it) and if you fill up too much it will leak down on the stand. This is why it probably shorted out. That is why we do not want to send it back in and then wind up with the same problem.
Is there a drip coffee maker for less than $200 that gets water at 196 degrees and above that makes good coffee, like or similar to the TV?
Here is one on Amazon I am thinking about https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O9FO1HK/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1YAYQOJRJXFY&coliid=IQD00F7Q3YFQG&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O9FO1HK/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1YAYQOJRJXFY&coliid=IQD00F7Q3YFQG&psc=1)
Any suggestion or ideas?
Thanks
Tom
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I had looked into coffee makers a few months ago and narrowed my choices down to the Bonavita and the Behmor Brazen Plus. They have both received good reviews. The Brazen costs more but the temperature is programmable.
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I have a Bonavita at mt FL condo and a TV at my northern home. Not a significant difference in the coffee from either for me. Just be sure to get the stainless steel carafe on the Bonavita. The glass cracks on the other carafe.
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Ive heard mixed reviews on the Brazen. The bonavita folks seem to like, and of course the Technivorn you know about.
Aaron
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I've got a Brazen and it makes very, very good coffee. It takes a bit longer than a typical Mr. Coffee and makes only 1.2L max, but those are the only two issues I see with it.
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Done the Tech, Brazen, Bonavita. Ended up with a plain old Bunn, get the grind right you will barely tell the difference or maybe can't. if I have some very special beans $10.00+ a pound green, pour over or French press it, that's what I do.
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As long as you have the thermostat set right on the bunn then it will do just as well. I think the price is about the same too.
Aaron
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Bonavita is definitely #2, but you should scour eBay for a used technivorm. I am willing to review the Brazen if Joe Behm wants to send me one but until then I will judge it by what others have told me that have owned them and that would put the Bonavita #2.
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How sweet it is, Bunns are easy to repair, plenty of parts available, a cave man could fix one. Of course there are some that should never untie there shoes.
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How sweet it is, Bunns are easy to repair, plenty of parts available, a cave man could fix one. Of course there are some that should never untie there shoes.
True, the old OCS-8 Newco's are nice as well. I personally like burn brewers. Most commercial brewers companies are going to put forth a good product even on their consumer units. However the Bonavita can be found at 2/3rds the cost of the Bunn brewers or at least within a shot of them and they are cheaper than the technivorm used. However I see slightly used Technivorms hovering around $125 on eBay frequently and that would be my choice.
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I have had to repair the Bunns when I was in the Navy. Very easy to fix, a few parts. Keep the thing clean, descale it once in a while (yah right fat chance in the navy right hehe) and it should last years.
If not e bay they can often be found on craigs list or restaurant supply places, especially those who deal in used items, ie closed places and selling off their stuff.
One question I had about the Bunn, but never got around to testing. I might next time im at the plant and remember. It has a hot well where it keeps the water coffee ready hot. You pour cold water in, and it pushes the hot water out, and then heats and holds that water for the next batch of coffee. Some models have a light that comes on when the water is the right temp.
My question is, as the cold water forces the older hot water out, how well does it keep it's heat through to the end of that brew cycle, there has to be some mixing Id think. Don't get me wrong, the Bunn can make some awesome coffee if done up right and the coffee being ground right but how much does it cool down?
Aaron
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Good question, I have put a TC at the spray head and got a solid 199 deg on my Bunn, good enough for me.
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solid through the entire brew cycle? Wow nice. That would make the bunn right on level with the TV and others then for a 'good' coffee brewer. Temperature and keeping it are two major items for a good cup so this is good news. The only down side I can think of is, the Bunn's I have seen have a very wide basket, and put the water into them pretty quickly. The water drains out pretty fast too. Id be concerned that you might not get full extraction of the beans, you'd get areas of extraction where the water jets hit but not a good solid extract across the entire bean bed. If one could possibly put a dam in there or a cup to make the area smaller or possibly restrict the water flow through some so it soaks a bit. Well dammit, now I have to play with the bunn at work and see what I can get it to do. They like my coffee anyways so I'll tell them to STFU and drink it, im paying for it :D
Aaron
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Has anyone heard of the BrewTek ES-18? It looks identical to the Newco OCS-12 and appears to use the same parts. I found it originally at Essential Wonders Coffee Company for $199.99 but searching a little further I see Amazon has them for $114.99 plus $4.99 shipping and is fulfilled by OCS parts. I've been pretty happy with my OCS-12 and it is still going strong back from when we got the group discount on them.
kp
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We love our Bunn in the house and my Bloomfield 8542 Koffee King in the shop. Wondering about the Ninja coffee bar brewer, I see Samsclub has them on sale this coming Saturday for one day only for $99.00 reg $169.00, think I might give it a test drive just for S & G. has anybody heard anything about these things, after reading reviews it sure has allot of features.
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We love our Bunn in the house and my Bloomfield 8542 Koffee King in the shop. Wondering about the Ninja coffee bar brewer, I see Samsclub has them on sale this coming Saturday for one day only for $99.00 reg $169.00, think I might give it a test drive just for S & G. has anybody heard anything about these things, after reading reviews it sure has allot of features.
Just because it made me happy to read about someone else having the Boomfield Koffee King, I'll add that I have one as well. I found it used and I only needed to descale it and paint the rusted bottoms of the plate warmers. Using the thermostat inside you can change the temp of the water, Mine comes out at a consistent 200 degrees F, and recharges quickly with the 1700 watt element. Not bad for $25. Mine is the 8543 BTW, not sure if the "3" makes a difference.
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My Technivorm Moccamaster just died this morning. It will not power up. I have had it for about 7 years and sent it back to them several years ago for the same problem. I do not remember but I am thinking they repaired it for $75 but I had to pay shipping.
Part of the top of the reservoir is broke off (maid broke it) and if you fill up too much it will leak down on the stand. This is why it probably shorted out. That is why we do not want to send it back in and then wind up with the same problem.
Is there a drip coffee maker for less than $200 that gets water at 196 degrees and above that makes good coffee, like or similar to the TV?
Here is one on Amazon I am thinking about https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O9FO1HK/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1YAYQOJRJXFY&coliid=IQD00F7Q3YFQG&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O9FO1HK/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1YAYQOJRJXFY&coliid=IQD00F7Q3YFQG&psc=1)
Any suggestion or ideas?
Thanks
Tom
If you will call Technivorm they will let you send it in and they will fix anything wrong with it for $50. I did this myself, much cheaper than buying something that is probably no 1/2 as good.
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thank you for this info hworx. For those who may have a seriously used / abused machine this may be a deal indeed!
Aaron
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$6
Slays everything else you guys mentioned so far. ;D
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I have a ton of coffee brewers including 2 Technivorms (1 for the office, 1 for home). If one breaks down I would not hesitate spending $300 instead of a $200 experiment. IMHO nothing brews coffee (auto-drip) as well as a Technivorm. My Bunn mB Trifecta is equal in quality but only brews one cup at a time.
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thank you for this info hworx. For those who may have a seriously used / abused machine this may be a deal indeed!
Aaron
I told you wrong, the cost is $59 instead of $50. I am pasting content from an email from Technivorm. Much cheaper than buying something else that will never measure up to a Moccamaster.
"Thank you for contacting Technivorm-Moccamaster USA. I am happy to help you today!
I am sorry to hear your brewer is not operating properly. Although we are not able to distribute floats and internal parts internal parts however, we do have a fantastic service repair center that can repair your brewer for you. We just ask that you pay for the postage to send it to us, we pay for the postage back to you. Out-of-warranty repair/service is also available for $59. I have included a link to your Instruction Manual below, where you may find additional troubleshooting ideas, as well as your warranty information on page 16."
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My technivorm just developed some hairline cracks in the water reservoir. I reached out to customer service to see how they would respond. So far they are offering for me to send it in for $99 to be repaired. I hope they end up covering it under warranty. We will see.
The $59 repairs are for minor repairs.
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Good luck on the repair. $99 is a big chunk of a new rig.
Is it me or is it kinda crappy that there seem to be probs with the aforementioned makers (TV, BV, etc). I'm probably too old school to be relevant, but I just think things should last longer than what they do.
My talented SO bought me a Chemex Ottomatic and I like it okay. I'm not gonna brag about it though as I think it brews too cool . No probs yet, knock wood.
I'd prob be interested in a Bunn with a shutoff if the temp is even thru the brew.
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I recieved word today they will cover the repairs under warranty but I have to ship the brewer in.
The problems seem to be related to things that aren't brewer specific. I.e. The bonavita I had a problem with the switch not self shutting down. I doubt the switch was made by bonavita. Technivorm to their credit seem willing to cover repairs. Bonavita wins hands down in the service dept though. They sent me a new brewer and told me to throw away my old one, over a switch :-/. Technivorm is more earth friendly ;)
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Done the Tech, Brazen, Bonavita. Ended up with a plain old Bunn, get the grind right you will barely tell the difference or maybe can't. if I have some very special beans $10.00+ a pound green, pour over or French press it, that's what I do.
Out of curiosity - which model Bunn ? My Mom had a Bunn ages ago and IIRC you could adjust the water temp w/ an adjustment screw - is that still the case ?
I mentioned elsewhere that I burnt out two BonaVitas in the past couple years - I'll accept blame for the first one (failed to de-lime often enough) but the second - dunno.
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FYI if you look at the adminreview for the Technivorm. There is some nice info for anyone looking to secure one.