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Re: Hottop Profiles / Q&A / Tips & Tricks
« Reply #135 on: March 07, 2010, 09:26:57 PM »
   I'm a new Hottop B owner with 5 roasts under my belt. I understand the benefits of stretching the time between 1st crack and the end of the roast to four to five minutes. I have been able to do this, but not without roasting to full city or darker.
   Is it possible (or desirable) to roast to city or city+ and still accomplish this? I am trying to roast different origins to recommended levels as a starting point to see how I like them, then adjusting roast levels to taste. I do not roast for espresso.
   How important is it on lighter roasts to stretch the finishing ramp?
   Any feedback on how to do this would be appreciated. I know lighter roasts are harder to do, but I really need to learn how. I do not have any additional probes, yet, so I'm steering by sight, smell and the stock temperature readings.

     Glenn K.

lwharton

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Re: Hottop Profiles / Q&A / Tips & Tricks
« Reply #136 on: March 08, 2010, 10:57:43 AM »
I did a batch of Yirg and PNG to City+ on my HT and both batches came out with a fair amount of chaff stuck in the crack of the beans. Even a fair amount of agitation doesnt loosen the chaff. Is this normal? That seems like a lot of chaff that gets ground into your coffee.


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Re: Hottop Profiles / Q&A / Tips & Tricks
« Reply #137 on: March 08, 2010, 01:46:46 PM »
I did a batch of Yirg and PNG to City+ on my HT and both batches came out with a fair amount of chaff stuck in the crack of the beans. Even a fair amount of agitation doesnt loosen the chaff. Is this normal? That seems like a lot of chaff that gets ground into your coffee.





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Stubbie

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Re: Hottop Profiles / Q&A / Tips & Tricks
« Reply #138 on: March 08, 2010, 01:55:01 PM »
This has nothing to do with a Hot Top roaster, but the lighter you roast your beans, the more chaff will stay in the seam.  The darker the roast, the more it opens up and releases the silver skin...

-Stubbie

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Re: Hottop Profiles / Q&A / Tips & Tricks
« Reply #139 on: March 08, 2010, 02:06:49 PM »
  I'm a new Hottop B owner with 5 roasts under my belt. I understand the benefits of stretching the time between 1st crack and the end of the roast to four to five minutes. I have been able to do this, but not without roasting to full city or darker.
   Is it possible (or desirable) to roast to city or city+ and still accomplish this? I am trying to roast different origins to recommended levels as a starting point to see how I like them, then adjusting roast levels to taste. I do not roast for espresso.
   How important is it on lighter roasts to stretch the finishing ramp?
   Any feedback on how to do this would be appreciated. I know lighter roasts are harder to do, but I really need to learn how. I do not have any additional probes, yet, so I'm steering by sight, smell and the stock temperature readings.

     Glenn K.

Slow down your roast prior to the onset of 1st crack.  Your entry point to first needs to be much shallower to keep that stretched lenght without taking the roast past City/City+.  City with > 3-3.5 minutes past the onset of 1st crack is tough, but it can be done.

Edit--with the stock thermocouple, make sure you're saving the city roast to later in your session.  Ideal would be that you've done the same bean, as the 2nd roast, so that you have some repeatability, and know when the bean is going to hit 1st crack, so that you can back off the heat ~ 90-120 seconds before that.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2010, 02:08:46 PM by cfsheridan »

Tex

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Re: Hottop Profiles / Q&A / Tips & Tricks
« Reply #140 on: May 21, 2010, 12:35:40 PM »
Nothing to do with profiles or roasting per se: The display on my B model is a PITA to read with polarized shades unless you're right in front of it. I guess I need to get a taller roasting table? My rolly-table worked fine with the Sono, since most of the work was done on top of the taller roaster.

« Last Edit: May 21, 2010, 12:58:39 PM by Tex »

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Re: Hottop Profiles / Q&A / Tips & Tricks
« Reply #141 on: May 21, 2010, 11:47:32 PM »
Looks like you'll be using an electrical extension cord with your new Hot Top Tex, is that right?  I see one in your pic


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milowebailey

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Re: Hottop Profiles / Q&A / Tips & Tricks
« Reply #142 on: May 22, 2010, 08:06:14 AM »
Nothing to do with profiles or roasting per se: The display on my B model is a PITA to read with polarized shades unless you're right in front of it. I guess I need to get a taller roasting table? My rolly-table worked fine with the Sono, since most of the work was done on top of the taller roaster.


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Re: Hottop Profiles / Q&A / Tips & Tricks
« Reply #143 on: May 22, 2010, 08:14:45 AM »
Nothing to do with profiles or roasting per se: The display on my B model is a PITA to read with polarized shades unless you're right in front of it. I guess I need to get a taller roasting table? My rolly-table worked fine with the Sono, since most of the work was done on top of the taller roaster.


Get a chair?

Wait long enough.  You will shrink with aging.  In the meantime, ship it to the Midwest for profile development.

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Tex

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Re: Hottop Profiles / Q&A / Tips & Tricks
« Reply #144 on: May 23, 2010, 07:22:49 AM »
Looks like you'll be using an electrical extension cord with your new Hot Top Tex, is that right?  I see one in your pic


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That's a left over from the Sonofresco Jake. It's power requirements were a lot less than the HT.

I've got a spot picked out in the garage where I'm going to mount a powerful range vent hood, with an outlet to the outside. The HT will plug directly into a 25 amp GFI fitted outlet.


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Re: Hottop Profiles / Q&A / Tips & Tricks
« Reply #145 on: May 23, 2010, 08:21:00 AM »
Roger that Tex, did you get the first roast out of the way yet?

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Re: Hottop Profiles / Q&A / Tips & Tricks
« Reply #146 on: May 23, 2010, 10:05:46 AM »
Nothing to do with profiles or roasting per se: The display on my B model is a PITA to read with polarized shades unless you're right in front of it. I guess I need to get a taller roasting table? My rolly-table worked fine with the Sono, since most of the work was done on top of the taller roaster.



Get a chair?


Wait long enough.  You will shrink with aging.  In the meantime, ship it to the Midwest for profile development.

B|Java

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I'd love to ship it to you, but would you mind if I try a test shipment of lesser value first?
Say, 5 lbs of my premium Kitty Luwak?


Tex

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Re: Hottop Profiles / Q&A / Tips & Tricks
« Reply #147 on: May 23, 2010, 10:07:34 AM »
Roger that Tex, did you get the first roast out of the way yet?

Curious minds


Jake
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No, I'm hesitant to try - figuring I'd pooch my first roast I don't want to waste any of my premium beans. I need to find something I can afford to ruin? ::)

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Re: Hottop Profiles / Q&A / Tips & Tricks
« Reply #148 on: May 23, 2010, 12:44:55 PM »

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No, I'm hesitant to try - figuring I'd pooch my first roast I don't want to waste any of my premium beans. I need to find something I can afford to ruin? ::)
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~~~The Hot Top is simple enough to run for first timers which you are not...IMO, you will not screw anything up, measure out 280 grams of the Bali BM I know you have and get going!  March Mister!!!, times a wasting=:-)



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Tex

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Re: Hottop Profiles / Q&A / Tips & Tricks
« Reply #149 on: May 23, 2010, 01:42:34 PM »
~~~The Hot Top is simple enough to run for first timers which you are not...IMO, you will not screw anything up, measure out 280 grams of the Bali BM I know you have and get going!  March Mister!!!, times a wasting=:-)

OK Jake - I did 280 grams of Brazil COE #11 that I got from milo last year. Using your profile, I got a very nice FC before it dumped. Does anyone know of a way to remove the 356° & 410° deadman interrupts (they're a PITA!!)?

I was spoiled by the Sonofresco - it captured nearly 100% of the chaff - the HT ~50%. I turned my cooling fan to blow over the beans as they cooled and it blew away most of the remaining chaff. Not the cleanest roaster I've used - even the UFO did a better job of ejecting & collecting chaff!

We'll see how it tastes tomorrow!