I voted neither...my '67 Cremina has ended my "upgrade-itis" as far as espresso. I have a mess of vacuum pots, ibriks, moka pots, pour over isms, kone,aeros, grinders, aarrrrgggggggg. If I didn't have a Cremina I'd find one...guess I like the complete hands on (no springs) approach but thats just me.