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Coffee Discussion boards => Hardware & Equipment => Topic started by: Aromajunkie on November 26, 2012, 04:43:26 PM
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I am making the quantum leap from a spinning blade grinder to a Mazzer Mini.
I've tried a few cheap burr grinders along the way, and was disappointed. I will soon be looking for an entry level Espresso setup.
Suggestions?
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What is your budget?
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What is your budget?
Well, after buying the Mazzer, I'll have to save a while, but I'm thinking 3 to 5 Benjamins.
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One of Tex's Gaggias would be a good entry level machine.
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That's a pretty low budget for a new grinder if you're planning on making good espresso? But you're in the ballpark for a good used grinder.
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I know a guy who is selling two finely tuned Gaggia Classics (http://www.greencoffeebuyingclub.com/index.php?topic=14952.0) within your price range. :D
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That's a pretty low budget for a new grinder if you're planning on making good espresso? But you're in the ballpark for a good used grinder.
He already has a Mazzer Mini now he is in the market for an espresso machine. Geez no wonder you can't sell those gaggias. ;D
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I picked up a used Super Jolly last year with new burrs and a doserless set up for $350. I couldn't be happier. I'm sure you'll find what you want in your price range.
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I now see that my original post is a bit confusing. I just bought a Mazzer Mini grinder. Now that I will be able to get a good espresso grind, I'm in the market for an espresso machine (as soon as the gadget fund recovers).
Tex's Gaggias look like a good setup.
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Haha...my bad...with that budget it will be difficult to get a quality espresso machine. Best of luck in your search.
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A Tex Gaggia is your best bet in that price range. Great value for money.
If you go new, I would recommend a Silvia. Used one for a couple years, it was decent, but your going to upgrade eventually.
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I now see that my original post is a bit confusing. I just bought a Mazzer Mini grinder. Now that I will be able to get a good espresso grind, I'm in the market for an espresso machine (as soon as the gadget fund recovers).
Tex's Gaggias look like a good setup.
Rancilio Siivia & Gaggia Classic are both good beginner espresso machines, but both are much better after they've been equipped with a PID.
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I'm a very satisfied Tex Gaggia user. I also own a QuickMill Andreja. The Gaggia was bought when the Andreja needed to be serviced. I was very impressed with the shots and foaming. I wish I would have met Tex before I bought Andreja--would have saved me a few dollars.
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I am making the quantum leap from a spinning blade grinder to a Mazzer Mini.
I've tried a few cheap burr grinders along the way, and was disappointed. I will soon be looking for an entry level Espresso setup.
Suggestions?
I haven't tried a Mazzer Mini, but I do have a grinder that uses the same burrs. I think this grinder should make a big difference over that blade grinder in your espresso quality with any machine you end up buying.
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Rancilio Siivia & Gaggia Classic are both good beginner espresso machines, but both are much better after they've been equipped with a PID.
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I followed Tex's advice and put a PID on my Gaggia Classic. It made a huge difference in my ability to pull a good espresso. It also restored the ability to steam milk, which my Gaggia had lost somehow.
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Going the Tex Gaggia path is a good idea.
My only quibble with the suggestions to do so is the concept of the Gaggia being "entry level".
I suppose it is because it is relatively inexpensive, accessible, and easily maintained and modified.
But it's not a machine which you will have to replace when your skills or your tastes improve. And if you buy the one from Tex, all the mods have already been done...cool.
As long as you pair it with a good grinder and take care of it ("keep it clean and keep it working" as Tex says), it could well be your first AND your last espresso machine.
It wasn't my first (I worked my way up through a lot of second hand Gaggias that I modded to make them more like the Classic), but when I finally felt like I knew how it all worked I got myself the real deal, added a PID and a Sylvia steam wand, and....I'm set.
Susan
(full disclosure: co-owner with Tex of the Gaggia Group on Yahoo, better known as GUG)
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I am making the quantum leap from a spinning blade grinder to a Mazzer Mini.
I've tried a few cheap burr grinders along the way, and was disappointed. I will soon be looking for an entry level Espresso setup.
Suggestions?
Most of the time folks buy the espresso machine and we have to brow beat them into investing in a quality grinder, but with you that problem is already resolved. So I'm curious, why did you buy an espresso specific grinder if you don't yet have an espresso machine?
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Going the Tex Gaggia path is a good idea.
My only quibble with the suggestions to do so is the concept of the Gaggia being "entry level".
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Susan
OK gal, just for the sake of clarification, what espresso machine that is capable of producing good coffee would you classify as entry level?
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I am making the quantum leap from a spinning blade grinder to a Mazzer Mini.
I've tried a few cheap burr grinders along the way, and was disappointed. I will soon be looking for an entry level Espresso setup.
Suggestions?
Most of the time folks buy the espresso machine and we have to brow beat them into investing in a quality grinder, but with you that problem is already resolved. So I'm curious, why did you buy an espresso specific grinder if you don't yet have an espresso machine?
I have not been a frequent espresso drinker, but my coffee geek'ness has steadily evolved. Though I want to get into espresso at some point, I also know that my pour-over and press pot coffee will benefit from a better grind quality. I expect to avoid the frustration of poorly ground coffee when I do get set up for espresso.
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I am making the quantum leap from a spinning blade grinder to a Mazzer Mini.
I've tried a few cheap burr grinders along the way, and was disappointed. I will soon be looking for an entry level Espresso setup.
Suggestions?
Most of the time folks buy the espresso machine and we have to brow beat them into investing in a quality grinder, but with you that problem is already resolved. So I'm curious, why did you buy an espresso specific grinder if you don't yet have an espresso machine?
I have not been a frequent espresso drinker, but my coffee geek'ness has steadily evolved. Though I want to get into espresso at some point, I also know that my pour-over and press pot coffee will benefit from a better grind quality. I expect to avoid the frustration of poorly ground coffee when I do get set up for espresso.
You sir, are management material!
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I am making the quantum leap from a spinning blade grinder to a Mazzer Mini.
I've tried a few cheap burr grinders along the way, and was disappointed. I will soon be looking for an entry level Espresso setup.
Suggestions?
Most of the time folks buy the espresso machine and we have to brow beat them into investing in a quality grinder, but with you that problem is already resolved. So I'm curious, why did you buy an espresso specific grinder if you don't yet have an espresso machine?
I have not been a frequent espresso drinker, but my coffee geek'ness has steadily evolved. Though I want to get into espresso at some point, I also know that my pour-over and press pot coffee will benefit from a better grind quality. I expect to avoid the frustration of poorly ground coffee when I do get set up for espresso.
I can't tell you how often I've had to tell folks that the new & often expensive grinder they bought for espresso isn't up to the task. You've made my day by doing your homework & thinking ahead! ;D
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The big brown truck delivered my new Mazzer Mini. What a joy to work with a quality piece of equipment!! I'm working to fine tune the grind for my pour-over and drip brewing. I've only done 4 or 5 grinds with it, but have found a big difference in the brew results at various grain sizes. The exciting part is knowing that when I find the sweet spot in particle size, my brew quality will be much more consistent than it was previously.
AJ