Pourover Kettle Thread

[bekeld]

How much is the feel worth? Sometimes that alone is worth the cost.

[John F]

Is it an $85 better pour?

[SJM]

How much is the feel worth? Sometimes that alone is worth the cost.

True. 
And I would probably be more attuned if pourover were more important here.
I'm an espresso/latte woman at heart.
Pourover is for when all else fails....

[BoldJava]

Is it an $85 better pour?

  I will take a run at it.  Call the Takahiro a Mercedes and the Paico a Ford.

Short Answer?  Yes, now go by one and forget the rest of the post.

Qualified Answer?  Depends...
1)  Are you a committed pourover person and know it is a method you plan on working for years?
2)  Do you have the extra discretionary shekels?
3)  Do you want the best on the market - feel, balance, "hand-presence?"

If so, order one.

On the other hand
1)  Interested in learning pourovers?  Grab a KONE, Paico and Chemex and have $3.00 left over for your "Takahiro in 2019 Fund."

I didn't find the control issue difference that Peter did but I was racing around, hosting -- maybe I wanted the Paico to perform as well.  I could get a liter out of that Takahiro if I monitored the stove.  I did notice that rather than boil over through the top, it backed out of the spout when I ran over a liter of fluid in.  Also, watch the cap's adjustment.   I noticed it falling out for someone.

[John F]

Like machine selection then...intended use matters?
 
I'm a full on pourover fanatic. Daily dedicated pourover for many years. I gave up autodrip with the Clarity and realized no autodrip would ever work for me.

For me it's worth twice the price however I wish it cost half so I could buy 2.
 

[bekeld]

Is it an $85 better pour?

For me, the difference is that the Tak pours, and you guide it. The others are poured and guided by the human.

I have focal dystonia in my right hand. I didn't have to work hard at all to get the Tak pour going and to keep it going. For me, pouring is a lot like patting my head and rubbing my belly. Add the dystonia to that and the kettle makes a huge difference. I like the Bonavita, but I am happy to put it down after a 4-minute pour. I am looking forward to giving a test at school this week.

[ecc]

I have a special category for things I use a lot.  I know mechanics who will pay outrageous amounts for tools that feel a little better, that grab a little tighter, that generally don't fight you, and make the mess that is larger to clean up than the original job.

Early morning equipment is easily worth an order of magnitude more, think of all the subsequent damage done to the universe later in the day, averted with just the price of a kettle.  Baaaargain.

[BoldJava]

...but it's a pretty center-based pour leaving a lot of the grounds on the sides under-extracted, I would think.
...

No, water is moving below the cloud and is evenly disbursed throughout the slurry.  It is similar to my pour but I don't pulse --

[headchange4u]

They took all that time to fold the filter but didn't rinse it before brewing? Amatuers

[peter]

For me, the music has more value than the pour.  One of my favorite songs, done wonderfully.

[John F]

  Pretty meticulous filter folding at the beginning,

I do close to the same.

[peter]

  Pretty meticulous filter folding at the beginning,

I do close to the same.

And it looks like he's pouring with your kettle.

[BoldJava]

...
And it looks like he's pouring with your kettle.

No, it's a Bekeld's right now.  She was next.

[bekeld]

Testing has been on hold past few days--babysitting for a friend in hospital. Hopefully resume tonight.

[rasqual]

...but it's a pretty center-based pour leaving a lot of the grounds on the sides under-extracted, I would think.
...

No, water is moving below the cloud and is evenly disbursed throughout the slurry.  It is similar to my pour but I don't pulse --

What's going on underneath isn't in question. It's those floating grinds to the side of the pour.  If someone took the crust off the top and ran it through a further, independent extraction, I'd happily drink the result. There's just no WAY those grinds are getting fully extracted.