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ph33nyx

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What's the difference?
« on: June 21, 2011, 06:28:04 PM »
What's the difference between a pump and lever style espresso maker? Is one better than the other?
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Re: What's the difference?
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2011, 08:22:57 PM »
Quote from: ph33nyx on June 21, 2011, 06:28:04 PM
What's the difference between a pump and lever style espresso maker? Is one better than the other?
Yes one is definitely better.... your job is to figure out which one!
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Re: What's the difference?
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2011, 08:28:19 PM »
Quote from: milowebailey on June 21, 2011, 08:22:57 PM
Quote from: ph33nyx on June 21, 2011, 06:28:04 PM
What's the difference between a pump and lever style espresso maker? Is one better than the other?
Yes one is definitely better.... your job is to figure out which one!

Walk forth young man and investigate both paths.  Both will give you coffee but only one which you will determine will give you exceptional shots custom made for ph33nyx.

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Re: What's the difference?
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2011, 08:37:57 PM »
Better? That's a judgment call - you'd have to play with each and make the call for yourself.

As far as I'm concerned though, I prefer the steady pressure of a pump machine to the varying pressure of a lever. But I'll admit that my lever experience is limited to one machine and then for less than three months.

That said, my dream machine is a vintage 2-group lever made by Gaggia of Spain. Once I get that I'll get rid of my pump monsters and join the ranks of the converted.
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Re: What's the difference?
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2011, 08:42:19 PM »
Quote from: Tex on June 21, 2011, 08:37:57 PM
Better? That's a judgment call - you'd have to play with each and make the call for yourself.

As far as I'm concerned though, I prefer the steady pressure of a pump machine to the varying pressure of a lever. But I'll admit that my lever experience is limited to one machine and then for less than three months.

That said, my dream machine is a vintage 2-group lever made by Gaggia of Spain. Once I get that I'll get rid of my pump monsters and join the ranks of the converted.


You mean something like this Robert?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VISACREAM-2-GROUP-SPANISH-GAGGIA-/200616382296

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Re: What's the difference?
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2011, 09:13:26 PM »
Quote from: mp on June 21, 2011, 08:42:19 PM
Quote from: Tex on June 21, 2011, 08:37:57 PM
Better? That's a judgment call - you'd have to play with each and make the call for yourself.

As far as I'm concerned though, I prefer the steady pressure of a pump machine to the varying pressure of a lever. But I'll admit that my lever experience is limited to one machine and then for less than three months.

That said, my dream machine is a vintage 2-group lever made by Gaggia of Spain. Once I get that I'll get rid of my pump monsters and join the ranks of the converted.


You mean something like this Robert?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VISACREAM-2-GROUP-SPANISH-GAGGIA-/200616382296

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Close, but no cigar. That's too new - I want one similar to what Danny McNulty had.
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Re: What's the difference?
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2011, 10:41:12 PM »
Lovely.
If I had one of those, I'd be forced to build myself a new house... just so I could have a kitchen where it would fit.
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Re: What's the difference?
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2011, 05:19:37 AM »
Quote from: grinderz on June 21, 2011, 10:41:12 PM
Lovely.
If I had one of those, I'd be forced to build myself a new house... just so I could have a kitchen where it would fit.

Not a problem for Robert ... nothing is too much for his dream machine.

Who is Danny McNulty?

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ph33nyx

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Re: What's the difference?
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2011, 05:39:01 AM »
Quote from: yakster on June 21, 2011, 06:47:43 PM
You'll also want to reserve a significant portion of your purchase to buying an espresso grinder to go with the espresso machine.  You can always use a great grinder with a sub-optimal machine, but the reverse never seems to work out.

I just closed a deal on a used Rocky (plan on giving it a good cleaning and replacing the burrs), so hopefully I have the grinder down.
Seems I'm on a slippery slope.

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Re: What's the difference?
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2011, 01:05:38 PM »
Quote from: ph33nyx on June 22, 2011, 05:39:01 AM
Quote from: yakster on June 21, 2011, 06:47:43 PM
You'll also want to reserve a significant portion of your purchase to buying an espresso grinder to go with the espresso machine.  You can always use a great grinder with a sub-optimal machine, but the reverse never seems to work out.

I just closed a deal on a used Rocky (plan on giving it a good cleaning and replacing the burrs), so hopefully I have the grinder down.
Seems I'm on a slippery slope.



You got a Rocky....the slope has slipped.  Enjoy the ride!
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Tex

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Re: What's the difference?
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2011, 02:33:53 PM »
Quote from: mp on June 22, 2011, 05:19:37 AM
Quote from: grinderz on June 21, 2011, 10:41:12 PM
Lovely.
If I had one of those, I'd be forced to build myself a new house... just so I could have a kitchen where it would fit.


Not a problem for Robert ... nothing is too much for his dream machine.

Who is Danny McNulty?

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Danny was a regular contributor on alt.coffee who died a few years ago. He had a Visacrem/Gaggia lever machine in his coffee trailer/caravan. He was from England and often related stories about his experiences running his coffee business. A number of years ago I was about to buy a Gaggia Orion lever machine until Danny warned me off - the piston seals for the Orion were a bear to replace.

He was a curmudgeon like me, but like me he always told you where he stood on an issue. For the most part he & I got along well. I miss his stories!

http://web.archive.org/web/20030603160306/www.danny.mcnulty.btinternet.co.uk/espresso.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20070203102017/www.danny.mcnulty.btinternet.co.uk/espress2.html
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Re: What's the difference?
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2011, 07:26:39 PM »
Quote from: Tex on June 22, 2011, 02:33:53 PM
Quote from: mp on June 22, 2011, 05:19:37 AM
Quote from: grinderz on June 21, 2011, 10:41:12 PM
Lovely.
If I had one of those, I'd be forced to build myself a new house... just so I could have a kitchen where it would fit.


Not a problem for Robert ... nothing is too much for his dream machine.

Who is Danny McNulty?

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Danny was a regular contributor on alt.coffee who died a few years ago. He had a Visacrem/Gaggia lever machine in his coffee trailer/caravan. He was from England and often related stories about his experiences running his coffee business. A number of years ago I was about to buy a Gaggia Orion lever machine until Danny warned me off - the piston seals for the Orion were a bear to replace.

He was a curmudgeon like me, but like me he always told you where he stood on an issue. For the most part he & I got along well. I miss his stories!

http://web.archive.org/web/20030603160306/www.danny.mcnulty.btinternet.co.uk/espresso.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20070203102017/www.danny.mcnulty.btinternet.co.uk/espress2.html


No wonder you speak highly of him ... he reminds me of you.

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