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Title: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: milowebailey on June 22, 2011, 07:06:20 PM
Yama, yama, ding dong ;D

I might sleep in the doghouse tonight..

I assume I'm going to have to experiment with this a bit.  I plan to try a few different grinds and doses to see what comes out the best.  Suggestions appreciated.

B|Gadget doesn't have one of these..... yet
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: milowebailey on June 22, 2011, 07:35:38 PM
The instructions are horrible.  (yes I read them, reason it came with both ceramic and paper filters....).  do I use just a ceramic or do I use both?
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: peter on June 22, 2011, 07:42:37 PM
I think it'll brew so slowly, it won't hurt to use both, but think the ceramic would work alone.  I'd also suggest using it like a Toddy, with a grind somewhat finer than drip.

It would take a lot more than this contraption for the fine Mrs. Milo to put you in the doghouse.  She likes it when you buy things like this.
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: headchange4u on June 22, 2011, 07:55:59 PM
I am sooooo jealous


Larry I fear for the safety or your marriage. As a friend I am willing to take it off your hands. You need to box up the thing and send it my way.
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: mp on June 22, 2011, 08:03:01 PM
I am sooooo jealous


Larry I fear for the safety or your marriage. As a friend I am willing to take it off your hands. You need to box up the thing and send it my way.

I see you want to follow the Tex business model?

 ;D
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: Dante on June 22, 2011, 08:06:09 PM
I admire your adventurous spirit Larry! I see this device in the UCC Cafes here in Manila, but never had the itch to buy one for myself.  :angel:
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: doubleosoul on June 22, 2011, 08:09:49 PM
I am sooooo jealous


Larry I fear for the safety or your marriage. As a friend I am willing to take it off your hands. You need to box up the thing and send it my way.

See y'all need to marrying a girl like me (not me, but girls like me). I have all kinds of espresso equipment so there's never too many machines, no grinder is too big for the counter top, I have about 1000 albums so the music is never too loud and a vintage car is never too old...lol.

OO :icon_rr:
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: Tex on June 22, 2011, 08:16:14 PM
Yama, yama, ding dong ;D

I might sleep in the doghouse tonight..

I assume I'm going to have to experiment with this a bit.  I plan to try a few different grinds and doses to see what comes out the best.  Suggestions appreciated.

B|Gadget doesn't have one of these..... yet

That's the dangdest bong I've ever seen. I think you're missing the bowl.
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: Tex on June 22, 2011, 08:17:28 PM
I am sooooo jealous


Larry I fear for the safety or your marriage. As a friend I am willing to take it off your hands. You need to box up the thing and send it my way.

Hey, he fell for this trick once, why not again?
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: milowebailey on June 22, 2011, 10:44:54 PM
Mrs. Milowebailey came home and saw the Yama.... I said "don't worry I'll take it to work".... she said "no you won't, it's too cool to take there..... it stays".... I am blessed with a good wife! 8) 8)
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: milowebailey on June 22, 2011, 10:46:45 PM
What are you going to use as an extraction medium?  I've a friend who uses a recirculating pump to extract coffee using tequila.  Damnedest stuff.
Water!  I've heard if it's mixed with ground coffee beans roasted to perfection can make a great tasting drink! ;D

After water.... I'm thinking vodka.
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: Pyment on June 23, 2011, 03:40:24 AM
What are you going to use as an extraction medium?  I've a friend who uses a recirculating pump to extract coffee using tequila.  Damnedest stuff.

Water!  I've heard if it's mixed with ground coffee beans roasted to perfection can make a great tasting drink! ;D

After water.... I'm thinking vodka.


Absinthe

I have heard you drink it while watching the extraction. I have heard that grande wormwood makes watching those kind of things entertaining (the fact that its 126 proof helps, too).

I happen to have a couple of these:

(http://www.greatlakesdistillery.com/assets/2absinthe2.jpg)

My daughter and I picked them up after the tour of the distillery. Made in Wisconsin!

Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: J.Jirehs Roaster on June 23, 2011, 03:58:58 AM
I am sooooo jealous


Larry I fear for the safety or your marriage. As a friend I am willing to take it off your hands. You need to box up the thing and send it my way.

See y'all need to marrying a girl like me (not me, but girls like me). I have all kinds of espresso equipment so there's never too many machines, no grinder is too big for the counter top, I have about 1000 albums so the music is never too loud and a vintage car is never too old...lol.

OO :icon_rr:

what she said..  my understanding wife very patiently tried to keep us and the been cooler dry as I was roasting in a surprise rain shower...
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: milowebailey on June 23, 2011, 06:33:58 AM
Yama dripped all night.  After 9 hours about 1 of the 1.5 liters of water had passed through the coffee bed.

Being the patient guy I am  :angel: I poured about 1/2 cup of the extracted juice into a travel mug, and heated a half cup of water and pour that in as I headed out the door.  Hot I'm not sure about.  I think I miss the acidity... or maybe need to change the grind a little tighter...

Any Toddy brewers out there that can offer some tips?

I'll be making an iced something when I get home today.   

The Yama does have the mad scientist cool factor and if I had a shop, I'd definitely have one of these dripping away just for the cool factor...

With Iced drinks, if I were to add some milk for fun, should I steam the milk and pour it into the cold coffee?   I'm such a noob at this thing.....
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: peter on June 23, 2011, 07:32:23 AM
I use half and half for iced coffee.  Toddy concentrate, cream, sugar, and maybe flavored syrup.  That mix gets whipped with a battery-frother-thingamajig, then ice cubes, and it's ready.  The beauty of the Toddy or your Yama is that the coffee is cold; steaming the milk would mean more ice would have to be added, which IMHO dilutes it more than you want.
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: Tex on June 23, 2011, 07:58:33 AM
I use half and half for iced coffee.  Toddy concentrate, cream, sugar, and maybe flavored syrup.  That mix gets whipped with a battery-frother-thingamajig, then ice cubes, and it's ready.  The beauty of the Toddy or your Yama is that the coffee is cold; steaming the milk would mean more ice would have to be added, which IMHO dilutes it more than you want.

I wonder how close your formula is to the Vietnamese iced coffee I used to love? It was sweet & thick, and a frosty glass of it made 100°F weather seem 20°F cooler. I seem to remember sweetened condensed milk being used?
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: century on June 23, 2011, 08:57:25 AM
I use half and half for iced coffee.  Toddy concentrate, cream, sugar, and maybe flavored syrup.  That mix gets whipped with a battery-frother-thingamajig, then ice cubes, and it's ready.  The beauty of the Toddy or your Yama is that the coffee is cold; steaming the milk would mean more ice would have to be added, which IMHO dilutes it more than you want.

I wonder how close your formula is to the Vietnamese iced coffee I used to love? It was sweet & thick, and a frosty glass of it made 100°F weather seem 20°F cooler. I seem to remember sweetened condensed milk being used?

Ya, it drips over condensed milk, then poured over ice.

I believe most Vietnamese (at least the ones Ive seen) coffee has a measure of Chicory blended in.
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: headchange4u on June 23, 2011, 02:14:55 PM
I use a pretty coarse grind in my toddy maker, but it has a rubber plug in the bottom and you let the slurry sit overnight and then pull the plug. But I'm with you; I don't particularly care for cold brewed coffee. Tastes "swampy" to me. I'd much rather have an iced coffee made with an Aeropress.
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: Tex on June 23, 2011, 02:37:48 PM
I use a pretty coarse grind in my toddy maker, but it has a rubber plug in the bottom and you let the slurry sit overnight and then pull the plug. But I'm with you; I don't particularly care for cold brewed coffee. Tastes "swampy" to me. I'd much rather have an iced coffee made with an Aeropress.


I feel the same about "sun tea". It takes heat to extract the deeper flavor compounds in both. A friend gave me one of these (http://www.thecajunconnection.com/toddy.html) for Xmas a long time ago because I'd been telling her how grandma used to make cold-brewed coffee. I tried it a few times and decided it wasn't for me.

On the positive side: This thread has triggered me & Mrs T to go through my junk to clear out some the stuff I'll never use and call a charity to come pick it all up. Let's see: coffee toddy: check, Mr Coffee: check, Bodum electric vac pot: check, a handful of press pots: check, whirly blade grinder by the basket full: check, Baratza Maestro: check, and the list goes on. It ought to make a nice deduction when I do taxes next April! ;D

Title: Re: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: headchange4u on June 23, 2011, 03:24:20 PM
I'd be interested in the Bodumusa Santos vac pot if u wanted to sell it. Does it work?
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: peter on June 23, 2011, 03:37:31 PM
I call dibs on the Maestro, my dear friend and pal Tex.   :angel:
Title: Re: Re: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: headchange4u on June 23, 2011, 03:41:44 PM
I call dibs on the Maestro, my dear friend and pal Tex.   :angel:

Crap. I got all excited about the vac pot and missed the Maestro.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: peter on June 23, 2011, 03:45:31 PM
I call dibs on the Maestro, my dear friend and pal Tex.   :angel:

Crap. I got all excited about the vac pot and missed the Maestro.

Don't worry; if it's between you and me, I think Tex will sell the grinder to the one that's not me.   ;D
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: Tex on June 23, 2011, 04:24:25 PM
Nope, it's all going to charity. It's a bunch of junk I bought to try and didn't use more than a week or two. I used to have a Melitta Clarity and extra carafe but I swapped them for beans. That was too much trouble, so now I just call a charity and but everything in a bag for them.

I need to get into the garage and go through everything - I know there's a nice Futurmat grinder and a Rancilio MD50 that I just need to reassemble. I just have too much crap out there!
Title: Re: Re: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: milowebailey on June 23, 2011, 05:21:49 PM
I call dibs on the Maestro, my dear friend and pal Tex.   :angel:

Crap. I got all excited about the vac pot and missed the Maestro.
I got all excited because Tex didn't list any of my stuff for a change.

And this is not a yard sale thread.... we are talking about yama yama doooo!
Title: Re: Re: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: Tex on June 23, 2011, 05:56:39 PM
I call dibs on the Maestro, my dear friend and pal Tex.   :angel:


Crap. I got all excited about the vac pot and missed the Maestro.

I got all excited because Tex didn't list any of my stuff for a change.

And this is not a yard sale thread.... we are talking about yama yama doooo!


Dave's not here man, so no yard sales. It's hard time dude if you sell your product to the people!(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d2/Marijuana_icon.jpg)
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: headchange4u on June 23, 2011, 08:37:23 PM

And this is not a yard sale thread.... we are talking about yama yama doooo!

It's not a true GCBC thread unless there is some drift...
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: mp on June 23, 2011, 08:38:33 PM

And this is not a yard sale thread.... we are talking about yama yama doooo!

It's not a true GCBC thread unless there is some drift...

Ok ... it's official ... it is now a GCBC thread.

 :)
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: Tex on June 23, 2011, 08:42:13 PM

And this is not a yard sale thread.... we are talking about yama yama doooo!

It's not a true GCBC thread unless there is some drift...

Ok ... it's official ... it is now a GCBC thread.

 :)

Not 'til John adds one his serendepitous changes of topic.
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: mp on June 23, 2011, 08:51:35 PM

And this is not a yard sale thread.... we are talking about yama yama doooo!

It's not a true GCBC thread unless there is some drift...

Ok ... it's official ... it is now a GCBC thread.

 :)

Not 'til John adds one his serendepitous changes of topic.

Be careful for what you wish for.

 :)
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: Pyment on June 24, 2011, 03:47:36 AM
we could talk absinthe.

http://www.drinklucid.com/ (http://www.drinklucid.com/)

(http://intoxicologist.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/lucidlogo.jpg)

While John explores rum, I begin on Absinthe.....
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: Stubbie on June 24, 2011, 11:47:48 AM

While John explores rum, I begin on Absinthe.....


While I generally stay away from alcohol, I have been interested in the Green Fairie and did quite a bit of reading about Absinthe awhile back.  I'll be curious to your 'trip report'

Did the US legalize it completely, or are they working within a grey area?

-Stubbie
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: Pyment on June 24, 2011, 07:55:51 PM
Absinthe was legalized in 2007. There are limits on the amount of Thujone allowed in the US. Grande Wormwood is the ingredient credited with the purported effects of absinthe. Pre-ban absinthes have been analyzed and found to contain levels of thujone that would have been legal under current limits. I have read that sage contains more thujone than absinthe.

In the US, absinthes must have less than 10ppm (equal to 10 mg/kg).
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: milowebailey on June 24, 2011, 09:20:08 PM
licorice flavored coffee...... pass :icon_puke_r:

Note: prior to today I had no idea what Absinthe was
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: Tex on June 24, 2011, 09:41:47 PM
Back on topic - the coffee house I visited today had the smaller Yama cold brewer for sale. The owner almost crapped when I told him what yours went for on CL. ;D
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: Pyment on June 25, 2011, 03:50:44 AM
licorice flavored coffee...... pass :icon_puke_r:

Note: prior to today I had no idea what Absinthe was


I know I've tasted it in coffee before some Yemen, Sumatra and Java - I think.

They make some near you. Woodinville?
(http://www.pacificdistillery.com/images/pacifiquebottle.jpg)
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: Pyment on June 25, 2011, 10:50:41 AM
Kind of informative

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBbNY5WSYb8# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBbNY5WSYb8#)

It sure seems the babe doesn't do much. Her purpose seems to be revealed at the end.

I think you could do a better job with the Hario Buono.
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: milowebailey on June 27, 2011, 08:35:35 PM
I've had a few cold drinks made with the Yama.  It's very convenient to have some in the refrigerator pull it out, toss in some milk and cold latte.  So far I'm liking it. I need to find a really fruity coffee to try with it.  I made the first batch with a Bolivian I had roasted up.

Great summer after work drink.
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: Tex on June 29, 2011, 09:48:00 AM
Milo, did you ever see this video?
Love Kyoto Style Coffee: Blue Bottle Coffee: Brooklyn Part 5/7: CiCi's NYC Diary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRACxBWLTaQ#ws)
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: doubleosoul on June 29, 2011, 04:41:49 PM
I'm not Milo but yep, they have that sort of set up at their San Francisco location on Mint street...
OO :icon_rr:
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: milowebailey on July 28, 2011, 01:11:12 PM
I just finished the second brew on this Yama yesterday.  El Salvador COE (2009) one Chad distributed.

I'll be cupping the cool brew this afternoon, but I've decided that I don't think the cold brewer is for me.  It's like watching a chemistry lab on TV and I don't drink much cold coffee.

So watch for this coming up for sale very soon.
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: milowebailey on July 28, 2011, 07:28:28 PM
Hold the presses..... damn that COE is killer in the Yama cold brew.    The fruit is so intense.

almost no acidity, in a good way.  Reminds me of as a kid breaking into about 6 sticks of fruit stripe gum

(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/candy-crate_2166_652014831)

hmmmm should I keep it.....?
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: headchange4u on July 28, 2011, 07:58:57 PM
Nah. Just sell it to me.
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: milowebailey on July 28, 2011, 07:59:56 PM
Nah. Just sell it to me.
I might be coerced to do just that 8)
Title: Re: Yama 25 cup cold brewer, an experiment
Post by: headchange4u on July 28, 2011, 08:00:48 PM
Subliminal messaging works every time.