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Coffee Discussion boards => Hardware & Equipment => Topic started by: CRG on March 15, 2015, 12:25:36 PM
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Hello all -
Despite keeping a relatively low profile on the forums, I've been a member of the site for many years, purchasing green beans from the kind folks who take the time to distribute them. I've gone through a few different roasters in that time and currently use an unmodified Behmor, though I haven't exactly been thrilled with the results.
I'm thinking of making the leap to either a Hottop or perhaps even a Huky, but before doing so I'd like to sample coffee that has been roasted on either of these two machines as a comparison to what I'm using now. Certainly I could just purchase one of these roasters and test it for myself, but why go through the hassle if I cannot detect much difference in the final outcome? With that, I have a request from the community...
I'm wondering if anyone out there is willing to roast up a small batch of beans on either a Hottop, Huky or both and send them to me. Of course, I'd pay for the beans, shipping and your time. If not, no problem, but figured I'd at least ask, as I'm not acquainted with any local home roasters. By the way, I'm in the SF Bay Area in case there is someone out there local.
Thanks for reading my post.
Corwin
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If I was you I would purchase 3 pounds of a bean.
Roast 1 pound yourself
Send 1 to a Huky man.
Send 1 pound to a Hottop man.
Synchronize roaster at the same time or however long it would take to gat back to you at a decent time. Then cup all 3 offerings.
How does that sound?
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If I was you I would purchase 3 pounds of a bean.
Roast 1 pound yourself
Send 1 to a Huky man.
Send 1 pound to a Hottop man.
Synchronize roaster at the same time or however long it would take to gat back to you at a decent time. Then cup all 3 offerings.
How does that sound?
:)
That sounds like a great idea, but just need to find a Huky man and a Hottop man.
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If only Susan kept her Hottop, you could just deal with one person. AFAIK, she moved on through it pretty quickly after giving up on her Behmor. That said, if you have the space and budget for a Huky and all it's gear, go for it. I have tasted the difference.
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I have both HT and Huky.
I can tell you straight away the Huky is a better roaster and I'm not even dialed in on the Huky yet.
I can also tell you there are a host of problems with your idea due to enormous fluctuations in roasting conditions/practices etc..
I used a HT for several years and would have used it a ton more totally happy with it. But then I went off and got curious and had to try the Huky. :-\
I honestly think what you are looking at is a level up situation with Huky being the next level up from the HT with nothing else (currently) in the market without doubling/tripling the price and getting full blown "pro" roasters. There are other things out there that might be approximately the same level as the HT but I've never used them.
Either are significant upgrades from what you have now.
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Thanks, John and Jojo.
I understand that there are many variables at play based on what I proposed. I guess I'm just curious to experience what's possible with a more capable roaster, used the "correct" way. I have the budget and space for the Huky, so perhaps I'll go that route. I also travel to Taiwan every summer for business, so it may be worth meeting up with the builder. Could be fun!
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What’s your preferred roasting levels (City – Full City +) and brewing methods? Favorite beans origin? Maybe a local home roaster can help.
That said, the difference should be significant enough in the cup. We’ve never heard of anyone downsizing from a HotTop/Huky back to a Behmor. With a Behmor, you have only a few options tweaking. Other roasters can give you better controls, but the final results are still depending on the operator, not the machine. With several flying variables, an operator can easily kill the beans by multiple approaches. :P
At the Huky pricing segments, there should be several other roaster builders in Taiwan. Please keep us posted if you can make the trip. :)
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That sounds like a great idea, but just need to find a Huky man and a Hottop man.
I see, with 3 different beans?
I'd like to see the comparative cupping notes for that one.
:)
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If only Susan kept her Hottop, you could just deal with one person. AFAIK, she moved on through it pretty quickly after giving up on her Behmor. That said, if you have the space and budget for a Huky and all it's gear, go for it. I have tasted the difference.
I have Susans Hottop, would be glad to roast some for you. The idea MP had would work best. Let me know.
Mike
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Thanks, Mike, and thanks to all who replied. After reading a lot on the Huky the last couple of days, I'm now thinking of placing an order for the roaster.
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Thanks, Mike, and thanks to all who replied. After reading a lot on the Huky the last couple of days, I'm now thinking of placing an order for the roaster.
You are smart. 8)
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Ive had the chance to tinker with a huky from one of our members. It's a nice setup and when you learn it VERY versatile. I still like my Behmore because it's relatively simple, but huky is a nice step up.
Im still thinkong on that 5lb fluid bed, the artisian? but would need to clean a place in the garage for it first.
Aaron
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I have no use for 5lbs of coffee in one batch.
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Well if you are roasting for others, or a church, or another meeting, it comes in handy John. The machine is also capable of roasting down to 8 ounce too so you can pretty much roast what you need. I believe the Huky is good for a pound itself. Given the most that 'most' people say you can do in a Behmore ia 12 oz, it's a bit of a up step. Huky gives you better control as well, more things to tweak with if you are one of those people, although the modded behmor is pretty good now as well I am told. I might have to try one and see.
Aaron
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Aaron, have you had coffee from the Artisan? I haven't, but read other forums, and it seems people buy them and find they don't like the coffee.
@ the OP... if you did conduct this test, which it sounds like you won't after all, it would be a good idea to include a 4th player, someone who has actually mastered the Behmor.
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Peter, no I have not tasted coffee from the artisian yet. I do understand what you are trying to say though.
Possibly they are roasting it too quick? I am not going to try to defend it or guess why it's coffee is believed sub par with NO real info to go on.
I DO own several I roasts as well. I have learned over the time to 'master them' they too are fluid beds and I have been told on numerous occasions, oh god, this is GOOD. It IS a different beast and 'fast' can happen... very fast, and ruin a roast, you have to learn to 'temper it'.
If you remember or not, I was critical on a few of the artisian threads because they were bragging how 'fast' they could do a roast in. This did not sit well with me. Then we had a member who bought one and said, he learned it and it's good, it is very controllable. A CFB roster is going to be different than drum by the nature of how it works but once learned, can give just as good of a cup of coffee I believe. I can easily see someone roasting too fast though on it, or umm drying the beans out too much??? if that's possible?? trying to stretch a roast. Loft is very critical. IMHO the best approach, control your heat with loft NOT watts as possible. anyways...
The behmor now
I feel I am pretty good on my Behmore. I have sent coffee to others, my 24 dollar a pound geisha I gave some to a fellow GCBC'er to try and he was very impressed with it.
Am I a master, umm.. nope, and don't think I ever will be. Once one says they are a master, they just admitted they (think) they know everything, and closed their mind to new ideas. I am not a master.
Thank you for your input. I am kind of very seriously considering one of the artisians, I do like the electric aspect, less crap to deal with, however there does not seem to be a ton of 'field experience' with it, and well, I try not to listen too hard to what the manufacturer / seller has to say about a product because they have a vested interest in it and may be a bit biased. Features, yes, wonderfullness.. ehh lets see now.
Aaron
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I'll watch coffeeforums.com to see if any pop up for sale.