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Offline rasqual

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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #240 on: November 13, 2010, 05:49:02 PM »
I took 60 grams of a Puerto Rican coffee that is only good for a "sink-pot" with 32 ounces of water.  I really pushed the pour in a Chemex set-up.  I hustled the 32 ounces through the KONE in 1:45 minutes.  No way I could move that volume of water with paper.

How about with a significantly finer grind?

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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #241 on: November 16, 2010, 05:14:47 AM »
Not mine. KONE pour for those who wish to see it working in the Chemex.  I think he is a bit preoccupied with a tight circle for his pour (rather than a circular pour).  

42 grams coffee for 23 ounces of water:

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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #242 on: November 16, 2010, 05:39:44 AM »
I just can't make sense of this style of pour.  Is there some type of voodoo magic turbulence going on under that dot of a pour?  Isn't the same coffee being extracted throughout?

Why would you put filter holes all the way up the Kone if you only *should* be using the bottom 1/4 of them?

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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #243 on: November 16, 2010, 11:19:40 AM »
I just can't make sense of this style of pour.  Is there some type of voodoo magic turbulence going on under that dot of a pour?  Isn't the same coffee being extracted throughout?

Why would you put filter holes all the way up the Kone if you only *should* be using the bottom 1/4 of them?

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Agreed.   No reason just to pour immediately in the center.

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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #244 on: November 16, 2010, 04:03:30 PM »
The Kone has landed.  Maybe they've worked over the edge, or maybe my hands belong to a working man and not a pencil-pusher, but the edge and tip don't seem all that hazardous.  I'll have to redo the circle on my cone-holder pourover gizmo, and tomorrow I'm good to go.

For some reason, as soon as I opened the box and took out the Kone, I had this old Madonna song going through my head.  I think I have to order a second one to find out why.  No worries, I promise not to post pics; your imaginations will have to suffice.
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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #245 on: November 16, 2010, 05:14:24 PM »


For some reason, as soon as I opened the box and took out the Kone, I had this old Madonna song going through my head.  I think I have to order a second one to find out why.  No worries, I promise not to post pics; your imaginations will have to suffice.

You could always go over to B|half-Madonna's house instead of ordering a second one... I see a youtube video in the making!

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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #246 on: November 17, 2010, 07:15:21 AM »
I'd be interested in knowing what kind of throughput there is for each hole in the thing.

Since determining that is theoretically possible (whereas with paper filters it's not) but utterly impracticaly, I wonder whether anyone observing the thing in action could give some idea of how consistent the throughput seems. Is there something akin to "channeling" at all? Is the throughput uniform from top to bottom? If not, how does it vary? How does pour aggression vary the throughput? By "throughput," I mean not just how much but more importantly how is that throughput distributed?

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« Reply #247 on: November 17, 2010, 08:32:29 AM »
I'd be interested in knowing what kind of throughput there is for each hole in the thing.

Since determining that is theoretically possible (whereas with paper filters it's not) but utterly impracticaly, I wonder whether anyone observing the thing in action could give some idea of how consistent the throughput seems. Is there something akin to "channeling" at all? Is the throughput uniform from top to bottom? If not, how does it vary? How does pour aggression vary the throughput? By "throughput," I mean not just how much but more importantly how is that throughput distributed?


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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #248 on: November 17, 2010, 10:40:26 AM »
;D

Empirical, my good man, empirical. I think a measurement approach with paper would be far more difficult than with the metal.

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« Reply #249 on: November 17, 2010, 10:56:36 AM »
;D

Empirical, my good man, empirical. I think a measurement approach with paper would be far more difficult than with the metal.

You don't know the permeability of coffee filter paper?  :P


(neither do I!)

Measuring the permeability of a coffee filter would probably make a pretty decent master's thesis.  ;D
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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #250 on: November 17, 2010, 11:09:53 AM »
God love these guys for their quest for the perfect brew:

http://www.tropicalsaloon.com/?p=107


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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #251 on: November 17, 2010, 01:09:42 PM »
I've been noticing a lot of silt with my Kone. Way more than I get with the FP. I haven't had time to mess around with the grind that much, so I'm hopping that's all I need to do.

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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #252 on: November 17, 2010, 08:33:10 PM »
I've been noticing a lot of silt with my Kone. Way more than I get with the FP. I haven't had time to mess around with the grind that much, so I'm hopping that's all I need to do.


OK, I'm glad I haven't ponied up yet. That settles it right there.

God love these guys for their quest for the perfect brew:

http://www.tropicalsaloon.com/?p=107


LOL

That's just awesome.
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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #253 on: November 18, 2010, 07:53:29 AM »
Put my Kone inside a Clever dripper yesterday and had a hell of a time getting it back out.  Almost became a permanent filter for a dripper that isn't mine.  :o

Cut my finger on the top edge too...this thing is seriously sharp.  My worker hands must be a little more delicate than Peters ;)

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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #254 on: November 18, 2010, 08:16:50 AM »
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Cut my finger on the top edge too...this thing is seriously sharp.  My worker hands must be a little more delicate than Peters ;)

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Don't let him kid you.  He has a special dish soap so his hands don't chap. He bluffs his way through a macho routine here.  In person? Manicures with polished/buffed nails or whatever they call it.  Very...ah....metrosexual guy.