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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #165 on: November 07, 2010, 05:36:55 PM »
You may like this idea.  This is how I do pourovers when I'm not using my BeeHouse.

Exactly what I had in mind.

Bring that set up over to the next Cabal meeting, do a side by side shoot out, and end all speculation on what's what.  8)
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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #166 on: November 07, 2010, 05:43:20 PM »

There are two very effective sales techniques: 1) everyone else is buying one; 2) time is limited.  I become wary when I am offered a limited-time discount.  Discounts like the Newco deal are nice, because you can buy when you have decided that you need a new toy. 

I appreciate all the leg work and R&D that has gone into this product and discounted distro here.. but I must agree that the short run discount distros are a little frustrating.

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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #167 on: November 07, 2010, 05:54:27 PM »
I'd be tempted to try and use it on a stand alone "stand".

Maybe like a metal loop that holds it at the top and the rest of the kone is in open air.

That might be fun.


You may like this idea.  This is how I do pourovers when I'm not using my BeeHouse.

Lemme guess; that's from a sock brewer, right? ???

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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #168 on: November 07, 2010, 08:46:22 PM »
I'd be tempted to try and use it on a stand alone "stand".

Maybe like a metal loop that holds it at the top and the rest of the kone is in open air.

That might be fun.


You may like this idea.  This is how I do pourovers when I'm not using my BeeHouse.

Lemme guess; that's from a sock brewer, right? ???

The second pic would remind one of some unprocessed Kopi Luwak.  :icon_puke_r:

Bring that set up over to the next Cabal meeting, do a side by side shoot out, and end all speculation on what's what.  8)

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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #169 on: November 07, 2010, 09:35:57 PM »
What grade of stainless steel is this thing made of?

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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #170 on: November 09, 2010, 07:16:57 AM »
http://www.greencoffeebuyingclub.com/index.php?topic=10664.msg164108#msg164108

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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #171 on: November 09, 2010, 03:50:50 PM »
Thought I would publish some pictures so you can get an idea some the KONE sits in filters.  I will have to round up the Chemex as well.

This is the KONE sitting in the #4 Cilio (5" inner diameter, 4" depth).  Sits tightly against the raised ridges, not wobbling on its tip, even though the Cilio has a \_/ shape.   The \_/ Swiss Gold (front) and Bunn Gold (rear) are off to the left.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2010, 01:54:05 PM by BoldJava »

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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #172 on: November 09, 2010, 03:55:07 PM »
For comparison, are the 3 in comparison.

Bunn, left, sitting on an 01 Hario. 
Swiss Gold, center, on a 02 Hario.
KONE, right, sitting on an 4 Cilio.

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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #173 on: November 09, 2010, 03:56:34 PM »
The KONE appears to fit the 01 Hario, the 02 Hario, the #4 Cilio, but the fit in the Beehouse is a no-go, a wobbler.  Seen here in the 02 Hario.

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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #174 on: November 09, 2010, 04:04:37 PM »
Chemex from above

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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #175 on: November 09, 2010, 04:06:56 PM »
Chemex eye level.  The wording you see is not as pronounced as it appears; lighting creates the effect.

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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #176 on: November 09, 2010, 04:51:31 PM »
I'm firing up the kettle right now for my first try with mine!

Off to the other thread for the brewing instructions...

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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #177 on: November 09, 2010, 05:25:18 PM »
I'm firing up the kettle right now for my first try with mine!

Off to the other thread for the brewing instructions...

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I will use my standard pourover ratios and give it a whirl in the a.m.  Too late for coffee.

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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #178 on: November 10, 2010, 04:20:02 AM »
Look forward to your Bold review.

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Re: Able KONE
« Reply #179 on: November 10, 2010, 04:31:00 AM »
1st cup in the KONE.  (Pictured below is KONE sitting in the Chemex during the 45 second bloom I use).

Grind:  drip/pourover grind on a MACAP 4
Coffee amount:  39.6 grams (Guat at full city)
Water amount:  23 ounces -> 21.5 coffee
Instrument:  Chemex
Pour duration:  2:30 post-bloom.  One slow continuous pour.  Water sat tight during the bloom and probably 20 seconds into the pour.  I found the water moved through better than it does with the papers (Melitta whites).

Cup.  Extremely clean. None Little of the silt in comparison to both the Bodum Gold and the Swissgold.  Oils are much more present than with the Hario/Beehouse paper arrangements. (edit Dec 1)  

Clean-up?  Lift the KONE right at the indentation of the pour lip when the grounds are dry.  Go outside, give it a quick hit to the palm, wipe with a finger, shake the finger, give thanks for the day.  Wash in a citrus oil based detergent.  Good to go.

Recommendation.  A worthy additional to the arsenal in this humble cupper's estimation.

Down the road?
1.  This weekend, try the same coffee in a side by side with a Hario paper prep vs a Hario KONE arrangement.
2.  Get Ryan (Roast Coffee) over here with his TDS meter (can't remember the name of that thingamabob).  He loves data.
3.  Put the KONE head to head with the Hario with paper (Melittas), Swissgold, Bodum gold.  Measure TDS, cup quality,etc and report back.  Will be a fun experiment.
(Note: I won't go near a Chemex brown filter.  To me they are similar to using newspaper to filter your coffee).

For now?  I recommend to whom?
1.  Buy if you like a rich cup with plenty of oils
2.  Enjoy a clean cup, without the (heavy) silt that golds tend to offer (edit Dec 1)
3.  Want to move away from paper for taste, costs, or "green factor"

My guess is that it will become my pourover insert in the Hario - pending a try this weekend.  Chemex cools so quickly whereas the small ceramic pot I brew in holds it warm enough for the Czarina.

Follow-up.  I will touch base with Keith.  The edge of the filter is a tad sharp and should be crimped, buffed or dulled to make it less 'edgy.'  Watch your hands when you empty it.

« Last Edit: December 01, 2010, 03:56:47 AM by BoldJava »