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Title: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on September 30, 2008, 03:03:13 PM
I've been using the ol' stove top tea kettle for a while now but lately I have been thinking about getting an electric kettle. I've read that they can heat water wicked fast; faster than a microwave. Right now the slowest part of the whole brewing process for me is waiting for the water to heat up. If I had to guess it takes 8-10 minutes to heat up a full kettle on my electric stove and 4-5 minutes in the microwave.

I almost bought a 1 liter kettle that Big Lots had for $13.00, but I decided to wait because I would like to have something slightly bigger in volume. I think 1.5 liters would be the optimal size for me. I have also seen them for sale at stores like Marshall's, TJ Max, and Tuesday Morning.

I'll be using the kettle for press, pour over, Aeropress, and pre-heating the water for my vac pots. With some of these methods water temp is going to be pretty important, probably more important that the time it takes to heat the water.

I'm also looking for something that's pretty reliable and won't break the bank.

Any recommendations?

Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: BoldJava on September 30, 2008, 03:09:26 PM
I like my Braun, 7 cup electric kettle.  Very quick.  Well designed and well built.  German made.  I would buy it again.  I paid $40 at Bed Bath and Beyond or one of the kitchen stores.  Cordless once lifted from base and automatically shuts off.

http://www.homeandbeyond.com/prod-0069704.html

B|Java
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: peter on September 30, 2008, 03:24:53 PM
Once you start using one of these, you'll never regret it.  By the time I have my beans weighed out and ground, the water's about ready to pour.

I've seen B|Java's in action, and it's faster than mine.  I found a no-name unit on fleabay for $10, and love it.  You can find good deals if you're patient.  Cuisinart CJK-17 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Cuisinart-CJK-17-Cordless-Electric-Tea-Kettle-FREE-SHIP_W0QQitemZ250297974751QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item250297974751&_trkparms=72%3A1205|39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A12|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14) might fill your bill.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: garybt3 on September 30, 2008, 03:32:51 PM
I've been using a Krupps Cordless model for over a year.

I think that my wife picked it up at Target for around $40 to $50.

Stainless steel construction, huge heating element, 50 oz capacity.

I'd say it does the job well enough, it just heats up water, ya know?  ;D

Gary
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: shep on September 30, 2008, 04:17:49 PM
I use a Braun that I purchased from Bed Bath & Beyond. However, I was just in there the other day and they were selling the Bodum Mini (I forget the amount it holds), regularly at $19.99, for only $9.99. I bought one for the shop. It is plenty big enough for cupping & my small Chemex or small French Press.

Shep
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: FinerGrind on September 30, 2008, 04:20:31 PM
I have an english made Russell Hobbs that we got as a wedding present (low, 20 yrs ago) and it's still going strong.  I descale when I see a film start on the element.  I like the old style - just checked http://m.ebay.com/bid/slideshow.asp?emv_id=110293480691&emvsid=r3797T193OC51.2e23&emvAD=309x219 and if you don't bid on it, I might.  I use it for coffee cupping and tea.

Woody
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Stubbie on September 30, 2008, 04:23:38 PM
I have the same Braun that B|Java recommended, only in White/Grey.  Bed Bath & Beyond had it marked down to $11 or something because the box was mangled up *really* badly.  I almost didn't buy it, but the cheap bastard in me won out and man am I ever glad I did!  We have used it far more than we ever thought we would, and it heats up to 7 cups in fairly short order.

-Stubbie
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on September 30, 2008, 05:31:34 PM
I have an english made Russell Hobbs that we got as a wedding present (low, 20 yrs ago) and it's still going strong.  I descale when I see a film start on the element.  I like the old style - just checked [url]http://m.ebay.com/bid/slideshow.asp?emv_id=110293480691&emvsid=r3797T193OC51.2e23&emvAD=309x219[/url] and if you don't bid on it, I might.  I use it for coffee cupping and tea.

Woody


I was watching a TV show the other night that was talked about sudden electricity demands that can be put on a power station. The power plant was in the UK and they were anxiously awaiting the 3 million+ people that would be firing up their electric kettles for a cup of tea after the finish of a soccer match. It was within minutes of the finish of the match when the power demands started to spike, right on schedule.

I checked shipping on the kettle you linked to and it was like $33. YIKES. The bidding is all yours, sir.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: FinerGrind on September 30, 2008, 06:00:57 PM
Ha - love that story... UK is fanatic for tea.  I like the Marks & Spencer store brand - bright and malty.

33 bucks for shipping - didn't see that in my little blackberry screen - I'll pass as well...
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: John F on October 01, 2008, 06:18:05 AM
I like this one for the spout. I'd rather have a nicer looking SS one but I prefer the tight spout this one because I do a lot of pourover with it and use that feature to control things.

If you don't plan on doing that or you are using a different prep like AP or FP it won't matter but I like this one and you will find for less than MSRP at Target stores.

https://shop.melitta.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=66+320&Cat=
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Chris on October 01, 2008, 07:24:29 AM
I figure I will recommend my favorite - a Zojirushi Electric Dispensing Post.  Expensive, yes.  Could not live without it.

Has 3 electronic temps 175F for Green Tea, 195F for Coffee, 208F for everything else (like soup, cocoa, etc).

And of course if you buy it at my favorite place, Costco, you can take it back anytime:

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11280592&search=zojirushi&Mo=1&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Sp=S&N=5000043&whse=BC&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=zojirushi&Ntt=zojirushi&No=1&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1

Go ahead and indulge yourself - you deserve it.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on October 01, 2008, 08:06:52 AM
I figure I will recommend my favorite - a Zojirushi Electric Dispensing Post.  Expensive, yes.  Could not live without it.

Has 3 electronic temps 175F for Green Tea, 195F for Coffee, 208F for everything else (like soup, cocoa, etc).

And of course if you buy it at my favorite place, Costco, you can take it back anytime:

[url]http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11280592&search=zojirushi&Mo=1&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Sp=S&N=5000043&whse=BC&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=zojirushi&Ntt=zojirushi&No=1&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1[/url]

Go ahead and indulge yourself - you deserve it.



Wow, 5L. That thing has to be huge. How long does it take to heat the water?

You do raise a good point: none of the other units that I have looked at say anything about the temps they heat the water. I assume it's boiling or very close. Anyone ever measured the water temps in their kettle?
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Chris on October 01, 2008, 08:10:25 AM
I figure I will recommend my favorite - a Zojirushi Electric Dispensing Post.  Expensive, yes.  Could not live without it.

Has 3 electronic temps 175F for Green Tea, 195F for Coffee, 208F for everything else (like soup, cocoa, etc).

And of course if you buy it at my favorite place, Costco, you can take it back anytime:

[url]http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11280592&search=zojirushi&Mo=1&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Sp=S&N=5000043&whse=BC&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=zojirushi&Ntt=zojirushi&No=1&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1[/url]

Go ahead and indulge yourself - you deserve it.



Wow, 5L. That thing has to be huge. How long does it take to heat the water?

You do raise a good point: none of the other units that I have looked at say anything about the temps they heat the water. I assume it's boiling or very close. Anyone ever measured the water temps in their kettle?


Well, you typically keep it on all the time (or put it on a timer), so heat up time is not a big deal, and you don't have to fill it completely.

All kettles will boil to 212F, and most people have some formula where they count while they wait for it to cool down, and hope the temp is somewhere between 195-205F (ideal for coffee).  Or have a thermometer nearby.

I just the Zojirushi, and there is no guesswork.  It is like high-speed internet - once you have one, you can't live without it.  Seriously.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: BoldJava on October 01, 2008, 08:23:11 AM
>>>
You do raise a good point: none of the other units that I have looked at say anything about the temps they heat the water. I assume it's boiling or very close. Anyone ever measured the water temps in their kettle?
>>>

I don't have a dispensing pot but do have 3 other Zojirushi appliances.  All are top notch.   The dispensing pot wouldn't work that well for me as I do alot of pourovers.  Prefer the tight pouring point that John references and don't need all that water.

RE:  Braun kettle.  Boils quickly (2 Cups in 2:00, 30 seconds later I pour for a 195 steep).  Used a thermo to check temps.

B|Java
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on October 01, 2008, 09:09:05 AM
Decisions, decisions, decisions.....

I found some smaller Zojirushi units, but I have decided a pour spout is a must.

I found these on Ebay, all under $40 shipped (except for the Capresso unit):

De'Longhi DSJ900 (http://cgi.ebay.com/DeLonghi-DSJ900-Esclusivo-Electric-Kettle_W0QQitemZ280271919083QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item280271919083&_trkparms=72%3A570|39%3A1|66%3A4|65%3A12|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ShippingPayment) Nice looking unit. I like the aluminum body, but I don't see a pour spout.

Kenmore 1.7 L (http://cgi.ebay.com/Kenmore-1-7-L-Electric-Jug-Tea-Kettle_W0QQitemZ180294917337QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item180294917337&_trkparms=72%3A570|39%3A2|66%3A2|65%3A12|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14) Nice stainless steel body and it looks like a pour spout similar to the one John linked to. Currently close to the top of the list.

Hamilton Beach (http://cgi.ebay.com/HAMILTON-BEACH-CORDLESS-ELECTRIC-TEA-POT-KETTLE-OFFICE_W0QQitemZ130259196488QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item130259196488&_trkparms=72%3A570|39%3A1|66%3A4|65%3A12|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14) Also nice.

Capresso 259.03 H2O Plus (http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Capresso-259-03-H2O-Plus-Glass-Water-Kettle-Chrome_W0QQitemZ160282437579QQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116) Cool looking glass unit but pricy.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Chris on October 01, 2008, 09:48:51 AM
The electric dispensing pot actually has a very fine point, and it's use is about 80% for pourover in our house, and it works great.

I just pull the pot to the edge of the counter and spin my cone around and/or swivel the pot since it has a built in "lazy susan" type of swivel built in the bottom.  I now prefer it to the stream of a kettle.  Just thought I would mention it.

As for all the typical electric kettles, they continue to get very mixed reviews on Amazon (I have had two of the Brauns completely poop out just after the warranty runs out).  I also have a really old Zojirushi that I gave to a friend, and it is about 9 or 10 years old, and it is still perfect after all this time.  I think it has to do with the cheaper heating elements used in the kettles, vs. the non-stick platter type of heating element on the Japanese pots.

But hey, if you want to pay $40 x 3 over the next 3 years on the kettles, go for it.  ;D
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: BoldJava on October 01, 2008, 11:47:29 AM

>>>Decisions, decisions, decisions.....

I found...>>>

The Braun is $40 shipped, as well, on eBay.

http://xrl.us/PullTheTrigger (Link to cgi.ebay.com)

B|Java
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Curtis on October 02, 2008, 05:23:10 PM
My wife bought me the Capresso when they were about $45.00 at SBux.  It has worked great for a long time.  Heating temp:  212+.  Cool down time to 200 degrees:  about 20 seconds.

Curtis
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on October 08, 2008, 09:06:12 AM
I was at Target this past weekend and I picked up one of the Melitta electric kettles (https://shop.melitta.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=66+320&Cat=) John linked to earlier. Only $24.99. I looked at Bed, Bath, and Beyond as well as a couple of other stores and most of their kettles were in the $50-60 range.

Target had several models of kettle but I opted for the cheapest one just to experiment with. It will boil 1.7L cold, straight from the faucet, filtered tap water in about 4 minutes. Smaller amounts of water heat much quicker (obviously). It pours really nice, with a very thin stream of water. I like it a lot. I've even managed to teach my wife to use the single cup Melitta pour over and the kettle to make her morning cup instead of that rancid instant coffee she normally drinks.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: peter on October 08, 2008, 10:07:51 AM
Thanks for the feedback headchange.  A buddy/customer asked me to find him one, and wanted a $25 price-cap.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: John F on October 08, 2008, 05:16:01 PM
It pours really nice, with a very thin stream of water. I like it a lot.

It spins on a dime don't it?  ;)
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: BoldJava on October 08, 2008, 05:58:03 PM
... It pours really nice, with a very thin stream of water. I like it a lot. ...

We'll see how well you like it when you get my age...

B|Java
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: John F on October 08, 2008, 06:18:11 PM
... It pours really nice, with a very thin stream of water. I like it a lot. ...

We'll see how well you like it when you get my age...

B|Java

Blahahahahaha!

That was funny.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: peter on October 08, 2008, 08:07:44 PM
... It pours really nice, with a very thin stream of water. I like it a lot. ...

We'll see how well you like it when you get my age...

B|Java

Blahahahahaha!

That was funny.

Funny yeah, if it weren't so true.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: maggie on October 12, 2008, 05:58:56 AM
  Hamilton Beach Cordless - $24.99 at BJ's Club - I have one & it is great


http://www.epinions.com/prices/Hamilton_Beach_Stainless_Steel_Kettle_Electric_Kettle         
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on January 13, 2009, 11:09:14 AM
I found this writeup on the UtiliTea Electric Kettle (http://www.thekitchn.com/thekitchn/best-products/best-product-utilitea-electric-kettle-041621) today. The this that sets it apart from other kettles I have seen is it's ability to heat water to different temperatures. It only holds a liter of water but other than that it looks like a really nice kettle.

BTW,

My Melitta kettle is still going strong. Between me and my wife, it gets used at least 3-4 times per day.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: barko78 on January 15, 2009, 07:36:15 AM
I was at Target this past weekend and I picked up one of the Melitta electric kettles (https://shop.melitta.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=66+320&Cat=) John linked to earlier. Only $24.99. I looked at Bed, Bath, and Beyond as well as a couple of other stores and most of their kettles were in the $50-60 range.

Target had several models of kettle but I opted for the cheapest one just to experiment with. It will boil 1.7L cold, straight from the faucet, filtered tap water in about 4 minutes. Smaller amounts of water heat much quicker (obviously). It pours really nice, with a very thin stream of water. I like it a lot. I've even managed to teach my wife to use the single cup Melitta pour over and the kettle to make her morning cup instead of that rancid instant coffee she normally drinks.

I have the same kettle.  I bought it two years ago from Target for about the same price.  So far it works just like when I bought it.  The water will boil for a few secs and then it will shut off.  I'm pleased with it. 
There is a small screen that snaps in on the inside of the spout, if that screen falls out of place to the bottom of the kettle, it WILL NOT shut off during a boil.  Just keep that in mind.  The screen has fallen two times in the last two years on me.  I think it happens whenever I use the kettle as a weapon and beat people with it.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: mp on January 15, 2009, 07:52:41 AM
I was at Target this past weekend and I picked up one of the Melitta electric kettles ([url]https://shop.melitta.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=66+320&Cat=[/url]) John linked to earlier. Only $24.99.


Yeah ... I looked at the reviews at Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Melitta-MEK17W-1-7-Liter-Express-Kettle/dp/B0002F56B6) and there were a lot of bad comments on this one.

The capacity and speed seems really good though ... and 1500 watts ... wow!

 :-\
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: John F on January 15, 2009, 08:15:03 PM
Yeah ... I looked at the reviews at Amazon ([url]http://www.amazon.com/Melitta-MEK17W-1-7-Liter-Express-Kettle/dp/B0002F56B6[/url]) and there were a lot of bad comments on this one.


I don't know what they use it for that they gave it a bad review but it's the bomb for pourover because of the speed and spout design.

The only other kettle I want is the one Kuban111 has....the killer thing in the link below.

I envy this kettle....it would be a lot slower but talk about pouring precision. 8)

http://www.avenue18.ca/TEAPOT/Hario/coffee_series/paypal_pages/5123_kettle.htm
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on April 21, 2009, 04:13:08 PM
I want to mount a thermometer into my electric kettle. I have some small diameter aluminum tubing, just slightly larger than the stem on thermometers. I figure I can drill a small hole near the top of the kettle just large enough for the tube and epoxy it in place. I could just slide the thermometer into the tube when I want to check the temp. Anybody got a better idea?
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: peter on April 21, 2009, 04:18:07 PM
Anybody got a better idea?

Depending on why you want to know the water temp...

You'll want to consider what will happen to that water temp as soon as it leaves the kettle.  For my french press at room temperature, I want to use the water right off a boil, so that it'll stay in the right brewing temp as the press pot draws heat out of the water.  So for this application, no thermo-probe is needed.

Guess that didn't help much...
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on April 21, 2009, 04:30:55 PM
Anybody got a better idea?

Depending on why you want to know the water temp...

You'll want to consider what will happen to that water temp as soon as it leaves the kettle.  For my french press at room temperature, I want to use the water right off a boil, so that it'll stay in the right brewing temp as the press pot draws heat out of the water.  So for this application, no thermo-probe is needed.

Guess that didn't help much...

I'm mainly wanting it there to get reference points, experimenting, and just overall consistency (as far as water temp) with each brewing method.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Tex on April 21, 2009, 04:38:56 PM
I want to mount a thermometer into my electric kettle. I have some small diameter aluminum tubing, just slightly larger than the stem on thermometers. I figure I can drill a small hole near the top of the kettle just large enough for the tube and epoxy it in place. I could just slide the thermometer into the tube when I want to check the temp. Anybody got a better idea?


I picked up some 12" type T probes and I drilled a hole into the top of my kettle. I removed all the original electronics & replaced it with a PID built into a wood base I built to fit the bottom of the wireless kettle. I do have to remember to remove the probe before I walk off with the kettle, but it works a lot better than anything else I've tried & I keep it on all day @200°F - perfect temp for most teas & vac pot coffee.

The probes are standard Omega: TTSS-116G-12 for $19.00, They're also available as type K, which are used in some thermometers.

(http://www.omega.com/ppt/pptsc.asp?ref=JTIN&nav=)
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: J.Jirehs Roaster on April 21, 2009, 06:14:52 PM
I want to mount a thermometer into my electric kettle. I have some small diameter aluminum tubing, just slightly larger than the stem on thermometers. I figure I can drill a small hole near the top of the kettle just large enough for the tube and epoxy it in place. I could just slide the thermometer into the tube when I want to check the temp. Anybody got a better idea?

I would just drill the hoe and slide in the thermometer... skip the tube and epoxy...  if you pick the right spot the thermometer will hang in the same spot (don't think it maters in water like in a bead of beans) and th heat loss from the hole will be very minimal..
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on April 21, 2009, 06:26:10 PM
I was thinking the tube would allow for consistent location when the thermometer was inserted. I guess that just inserting the probe would work fine, but without the tube it may move around some. As long as it stays off the bottom I guess movement would't matter that much.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: John F on April 21, 2009, 07:04:51 PM
Anybody got a better idea?

Nope....you got a pretty good idea there.  8)

Maybe use 100% silicone instead of epoxy (it might be less "harsh" around water). Just drill the hole close enough to the tube size that you have to tap in in place.


Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: bunnysandefur on May 06, 2009, 10:52:36 AM
So my question is: Is there currently no such thing as a kettle (electric or standard) on the market that has a built in thermometer? According to Aerobie's FAQ page, they say there's such a thing as an electric kettle with an adjustable temperature dial. I have yet to find one, online or otherwise. [edit: yes, I'm mildly retarded... excuse the un-PC term. i did see the previously posted units with the dial, but i meant more specifically a thermometer as opposed to pre-settings.] Surely I will still need a thermometer to gauge whether or not it's lying to me.

Hey, I'm a woman. I have trust issues.

[/sarcasm]
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: J.Jirehs Roaster on May 06, 2009, 12:40:20 PM
This one... (http://www.amazon.com/Zojirushi-CD-LCC30-3-0-Liter-Electric-Dispensing/dp/B00009K3TE) was the one I was looking for... but this other one....  (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001I1BH98)came up in my search... never seen it before..
and it is cheaper here (http://www.chefsresource.com/chefs-choice-smartkettle-electric-kettle.html)

Isn't Google (http://www.google.com/) great?!?!
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: mp on May 06, 2009, 01:09:21 PM
In my humble opinion this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16896736098&Tpk=water%20kettle) is a better deal if you can do without the constant temperature funcion.

 :)
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on May 06, 2009, 08:04:33 PM
I saw this review of the Breville Variable Temperature Kettle (http://www.thekitchn.com/thekitchn/product-review-breville-variable-temperature-kettle-081332). It's certainly sexy to look at, but $150 is a little bit more than I would be willing to shell out for an electric kettle. My Melitta has been shugging along without a hitch, boiling water 3-4 times a day, and it only set me back $25.

The tubing I had was too small for the thermometer stem to fit through, but I have been monitoring temps by just dangling a thermometer in the water. My cup has improved noticeably; more flavors and less bitterness.

In the past I would let the water boil, and would wait 30 - 40 seconds before pouring. I've found that even after 30-40 seconds the water is still close to boiling. I now open the lid, swirl the water a bit, and then let it sit for about 1 1/2 minutes, and then give the water another swirl before I pour over my Melitta cone. By this time the water temps had dropped just below the 200* mark. Right now I'm just using some instant read dial thermometers but I've been thinking about picking up a digital unit. They are pretty inexpensive at Walmart.

Tex,

You would happen to have some instruction on your PID'ed kettle just laying around, would you? That option sounds better all the time

Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Tex on May 06, 2009, 08:14:19 PM

Tex,

You would happen to have some instruction on your PID'ed kettle just laying around, would you? That option sounds better all the time




No, but the PID part was simple - just interrupt the power & tstat circuits. The tough part was where to stick it. I had a friend who's into woodworking make a base for my old kettle - looks like it's just sitting on top of a nice wooden box. For the thermocouple I had a few 12" Omega type T probes, so I rigged up one that sticks through the top of the kettle.

Piece of cake!

(http://home.earthlink.net/~cm_harmon/images/piece%20of%20cake%2001.gif)

Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: hatethis on May 07, 2009, 08:09:51 AM
Every Japanese house has one, that being said, I recommend a Zojirushi or Tiger.  Both of these come in various sizes (.5L to 5L) and most have temp settings like someone stated before.  They take almost no time to heat up and stay warm as long as you have it turned on.  Some (like mine) have a nice feature meant specifically for drip coffee.  I strongly recommend paying the extra cash for one of these.  We paid about $60 for our 3L Zojirushi with all the special options.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Tex on May 07, 2009, 08:41:02 AM
Every Japanese house has one, that being said, I recommend a Zojirushi or Tiger.  Both of these come in various sizes (.5L to 5L) and most have temp settings like someone stated before.  They take almost no time to heat up and stay warm as long as you have it turned on.  Some (like mine) have a nice feature meant specifically for drip coffee.  I strongly recommend paying the extra cash for one of these.  We paid about $60 for our 3L Zojirushi with all the special options.

These big kettles are inconvenient if you're a vac pot user. They're too heavy too lift comfortably and there's not enough room under the spigot for the top bowl of a vac pot. So you end up drawing water into a vessel for transfer to the coffee maker.

Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on May 07, 2009, 09:05:33 AM
These big kettles are inconvenient if you're a vac pot user. They're too heavy too lift comfortably and there's not enough room under the spigot for the top bowl of a vac pot. So you end up drawing water into a vessel for transfer to the coffee maker.



Why are you adding water through the top? I just pout it in the bottom carafe, sit the unit on the stove, and then add the top funnel.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: peter on May 07, 2009, 09:37:37 AM
These big kettles are inconvenient if you're a vac pot user. They're too heavy too lift comfortably and there's not enough room under the spigot for the top bowl of a vac pot. So you end up drawing water into a vessel for transfer to the coffee maker.



Why are you adding water through the top? I just pout it in the bottom carafe, sit the unit on the stove, and then add the top funnel.

My thoughts exactly.  Tex?


I've been tempted to get one of those Zojirushi heaters for a looong time.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Tex on May 07, 2009, 11:10:52 AM
These big kettles are inconvenient if you're a vac pot user. They're too heavy too lift comfortably and there's not enough room under the spigot for the top bowl of a vac pot. So you end up drawing water into a vessel for transfer to the coffee maker.




Why are you adding water through the top? I just pout it in the bottom carafe, sit the unit on the stove, and then add the top funnel.


Brain fart? I meant the bottom bowl of the 5-cup Yama table-top vac pot and it's stand are too tall to fit under the spigot.

Whatever, it'd be inconvenient to drag it to the kettle to start a pot of coffee. Much better to have a small, hand-held unit.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41LeBtA4Y5L._SS400_.jpg)

Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: bunnysandefur on May 08, 2009, 02:05:06 AM
I think I'm going to go with the aforementioned Adagio UtiliTEA. It has many admirers, and goes for a measly $49.95 on Amazon. I take it no one here has experience with it, though?

I really love those Zojirushi's. Some of them look like they might be able to do my laundry too.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: J.Jirehs Roaster on May 08, 2009, 05:59:38 AM
I think I'm going to go with the aforementioned Adagio UtiliTEA. It has many admirers, and goes for a measly $49.95 on Amazon. I take it no one here has experience with it, though?

I really love those Zojirushi's. Some of them look like they might be able to do my laundry too.

In Hello Kitty pink?!?   ;) 
(I better behave or I will be trying to get my wife to decorate a pourover funnel in hello kitty)
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: bunnysandefur on May 08, 2009, 11:29:52 AM
I think I'm going to go with the aforementioned Adagio UtiliTEA. It has many admirers, and goes for a measly $49.95 on Amazon. I take it no one here has experience with it, though?

I really love those Zojirushi's. Some of them look like they might be able to do my laundry too.

In Hello Kitty pink?!?   ;) 
(I better behave or I will be trying to get my wife to decorate a pourover funnel in hello kitty)
Damn right!
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: bunnysandefur on May 08, 2009, 12:16:20 PM
(http://s2.thisnext.com/media/400x400/Hello-Kitty-Electric-Pot_A1D9B08A.jpg)

It's even licensed by the Hello Kitty company, Sanrio, making it the official Hello Kitty Toshiba Electric Boiler.

[sarcasm]

Maybe I'll paint my Aeropress pink... will acrylic paint hold up in the dishwasher???

[/sarcasm]
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: milowebailey on May 08, 2009, 12:49:44 PM
You may want to get a set of these to go with it.

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1221/1331104692_03b4ee51f0.jpg?v=0)

and one of these

(http://s2.thisnext.com/media/230x230/FrancisFrancis-X3-Espresso_E7899885.jpg)
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: ButtWhiskers on May 08, 2009, 02:19:58 PM
Then you can do like I did and make a turbocrazy roaster using one of these:
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Tex on May 08, 2009, 02:42:36 PM
Then you can do like I did and make a turbocrazy roaster using one of these:


Is there anyone NOT living on the Left Coast who's using one of these?

Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: J.Jirehs Roaster on May 08, 2009, 09:24:57 PM
Then you can do like I did and make a turbocrazy roaster using one of these:


Is there anyone NOT living on the Left Coast who's using one of these?



no the left coast bough them all up before any of the rest of us could get a SC/TO sample roaster   :-X
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: bunnysandefur on May 08, 2009, 11:04:07 PM
Then you can do like I did and make a turbocrazy roaster using one of these:

So when do we see the pictures of that thing?
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: mp on May 09, 2009, 06:52:49 AM
So when do we see the pictures of that thing?


But of course ... there are many threads on the SC/TO ... see here (http://www.greencoffeebuyingclub.com/index.php?topic=5033.0).

Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: bunnysandefur on May 10, 2009, 12:25:25 AM
But of course ... there are many threads on the SC/TO ... see here ([url]http://www.greencoffeebuyingclub.com/index.php?topic=5033.0[/url]).



Certainly you misunderstood... What I want to see is BW's HK/TO :)
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: mp on May 10, 2009, 10:48:35 AM
Certainly you misunderstood... What I want to see is BW's HK/TO :)

Oh ... apparently I have ... only signore Butt Whiskers can show you his.

 :)
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: John F on May 11, 2009, 04:31:03 PM
HK/TO

Hahaha!  ;D
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Tex on May 11, 2009, 06:04:19 PM
But of course ... there are many threads on the SC/TO ... see here ([url]http://www.greencoffeebuyingclub.com/index.php?topic=5033.0[/url]).



Certainly you misunderstood... What I want to see is BW's HK/TO :)


So, do we have an offer of, "I'll show him mine if he shows me his?"

 >:D
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: bunnysandefur on May 11, 2009, 08:09:21 PM
So, do we have an offer of, "I'll show him mine if he shows me his?"

 >:D

I already exposed myself with my HK pot.  >:D
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: mp on May 12, 2009, 06:57:47 AM
My god ... I didn't think this was possible ... showing roasters is now sounding almost pornographic.

 ;D
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on May 12, 2009, 07:22:58 AM
My god ... I didn't think this was possible ... showing roasters is now sounding almost pornographic.

 ;D

You know those calendars with the pretty ladies posing on cars, motorcycles, etc? Maybe we need to put together a GCBC with hot girls posing with coffee roasters.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Tex on May 12, 2009, 07:45:08 AM
My god ... I didn't think this was possible ... showing roasters is now sounding almost pornographic.

 ;D

Ever see the Kona coffee calendar with the nekkid ladies?

Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on May 12, 2009, 09:06:14 AM
My god ... I didn't think this was possible ... showing roasters is now sounding almost pornographic.

 ;D

Ever see the Kona coffee calendar with the nekkid ladies?



I have not seen that, but I sure would like too. >:D
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Tex on May 12, 2009, 09:17:14 AM
My god ... I didn't think this was possible ... showing roasters is now sounding almost pornographic.

 ;D


Ever see the Kona coffee calendar with the nekkid ladies?




I have not seen that, but I sure would like too. >:D



No you don't! Coffee farmers, sans clothing, might make you swear off coffee for life!
(http://www.smithfarms.com/images/2009calendar2.jpg)

 8) (http://www.smithfarms.com/gifts.asp)
(click on the blind guy to find out what he saw)

Maybe we can get a group buy for these?
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: mp on May 12, 2009, 09:38:41 AM
No you don't! Coffee farmers, sans clothing, might make you swear off coffee for life!

I certainly won't stand for that!

 :)
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: J.Jirehs Roaster on May 12, 2009, 10:15:32 AM
My god ... I didn't think this was possible ... showing roasters is now sounding almost pornographic.

 ;D

LOL... reminds me of a bad idea our mens group at church had... topless car wash..  :-X 

"Get a few teens with signs out on the main road advertising topless car wash fund raiser... you pull in and the over weight over the hill men of the church wash your car.. topless   :-\
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: mp on May 12, 2009, 12:03:16 PM
"Get a few teens with signs out on the main road advertising topless car wash fund raiser... you pull in and the over weight over the hill men of the church wash your car.. topless   :-\

Well ... the people did get what they came for.

 ;D
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on August 28, 2009, 10:21:08 AM
How about a Bugatti kettle (http://gizmodo.com/5347641/bugattis-electric-kettle-is-what-civilized-cylons-use-for-tea)?
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/4/2009/08/500x_ElectricKettle.jpg)
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: milowebailey on January 21, 2011, 06:59:39 AM
I saw this today... variable temperature control looks interesting and somewhat affordable.

(http://s7d5.scene7.com/is/image/Staples/s0391809_sc7?$sku$) (http://www.amazon.com/Capresso-Programmable-Cordless-56-Ounce-Temperature/dp/B00365EA5W)
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: CAGurl on January 21, 2011, 08:07:01 AM
My Braun electric kettle gave up the ghost last week so I went looking for a replacement.  I bought a Bodum Bistro and took it back IMMEDIATELY.  The stupid thing doesn't have an "OFF" switch.  Sheesh.  Turn it ON and you change your mind, you can only turn it off by pulling the plug, and then when you plug it back in, it's still ON????  What????

Anyway, I ended up with this
http://www.target.com/Aroma-X-Press-Stainless-Steel-Kettle/dp/B000KDVTJI (http://www.target.com/Aroma-X-Press-Stainless-Steel-Kettle/dp/B000KDVTJI)

It is very satisfactory in the short run.  Not too big, not too small.  Fast.  Light to hold and pour.  I think I'm going to like it.  No variable temperature, but that suits me;  having a variable temperature control means I have to think about it, and first thing in the morning, ON and OFF are as much as I can manage....

Susan
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: 7over on January 21, 2011, 02:06:14 PM
I picked up 4 of these Saeco Kettles for an event last year. I gotta say that they work great!
There are three temp presets at 105, 150 and 200 deg. plus boil.
It pours very nicely and will hold any of your presets for 2 hours before auto shutoff.
It's got enough power to get 50 oz of cold water up to 200 (f) in about 4 min.
It also looks cool when using any of the presets... the plastic front lights up to a different color depending on the temp you choose. ... allows you to set the temp without your contacts in (provided you're not color blind!)
I was a little concerned that there might be a plastic taste to the water but none is imparted. It's an excellent electric kettle that I don't hesitate to recommend.

 
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Tex on January 21, 2011, 02:17:51 PM
I picked up 4 of these Saeco Kettles for an event last year. I gotta say that they work great!
There are three temp presets at 105, 150 and 200 deg. plus boil.
It pours very nicely and will hold any of your presets for 2 hours before auto shutoff.
It's got enough power to get 50 oz of cold water up to 200 (f) in about 4 min.
It also looks cool when using any of the presets... the plastic front lights up to a different color depending on the temp you choose. ... allows you to set the temp without your contacts in (provided you're not color blind!)
I was a little concerned that there might be a plastic taste to the water but none is imparted. It's an excellent electric kettle that I don't hesitate to recommend.

 

For my church we opted for big Zojirushi kettles with the dispensing button - figuring less people would be in harms way if no one had to lift and pour from the smaller kettles. They work great at holding temps at 195°F for hours on end, and to date no one has scalded themselves.

Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: EricBNC on January 21, 2011, 04:56:30 PM
My Braun electric kettle gave up the ghost last week so I went looking for a replacement.  I bought a Bodum Bistro and took it back IMMEDIATELY.  The stupid thing doesn't have an "OFF" switch.  Sheesh.  Turn it ON and you change your mind, you can only turn it off by pulling the plug, and then when you plug it back in, it's still ON????  What????

Anyway, I ended up with this
[url]http://www.target.com/Aroma-X-Press-Stainless-Steel-Kettle/dp/B000KDVTJI[/url] ([url]http://www.target.com/Aroma-X-Press-Stainless-Steel-Kettle/dp/B000KDVTJI[/url])

It is very satisfactory in the short run.  Not too big, not too small.  Fast.  Light to hold and pour.  I think I'm going to like it.  No variable temperature, but that suits me;  having a variable temperature control means I have to think about it, and first thing in the morning, ON and OFF are as much as I can manage....

Susan

+1

Mine is a year old this month and still works like a champ.  It boils water and then shuts off automatically, and that is all I want my Aroma-X kettle to do.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on January 22, 2011, 07:19:03 AM
The switch on my new Capresso H2O (http://Capresso H2O) stays on until it reaches a boil, even if you take it off the base or unplug it. But I can manually flip the switch to the off position if needed.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: peter on January 22, 2011, 08:48:41 AM
Macy's flyer says these Capresso's (http://xrl.in/72g6) are on sale for $60.  They're very nice kettles.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Richdel on January 22, 2011, 09:52:57 AM
Once you are willing to spend >$60.00 for an electric kettle,
then I think the Pino Kettle becomes a contender for purchase.
I was given one for my birthday in May, use it every day as I prep
for AP coffee.  Set the temp, and walk away.  I really like it!

http://www.sweetmarias.com/sweetmarias/miscellaneous/cupping-supplies/pino-pro-digital-electric-kettle.html (http://www.sweetmarias.com/sweetmarias/miscellaneous/cupping-supplies/pino-pro-digital-electric-kettle.html)
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Tex on January 22, 2011, 10:14:15 AM
Hard to beat the price & return policy of Costco.
(http://content.costco.com/Images/Content/Product/435175.jpg) (http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11489830)


Disclaimer: Yes, I own Costco stock.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on January 22, 2011, 10:19:07 AM
Quote from: peter
Macy's flyer says these Capresso's are on sale for $60.  They're very nice kettles.

I bought my Capresso at TJ Maxx for $40.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on January 22, 2011, 10:21:06 AM
Hard to beat the price & return policy of Costco.
([url]http://content.costco.com/Images/Content/Product/435175.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11489830[/url])


Disclaimer: Yes, I own Costco stock.


I wish I had a Costco close to me :(
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Tex on January 22, 2011, 11:35:43 AM
Hard to beat the price & return policy of Costco.
([url]http://content.costco.com/Images/Content/Product/435175.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11489830[/url])


Disclaimer: Yes, I own Costco stock.


I wish I had a Costco close to me :(


Free S&H at http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11489830 (http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11489830)! 8)
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: peter on January 22, 2011, 12:04:36 PM
Do you have to be a Costco member to get that price and/or free shipping?
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Tex on January 22, 2011, 12:08:12 PM
Do you have to be a Costco member to get that price and/or free shipping?

"Non-members will be charged a 5% surcharge over the member's posted product prices (except for prescription drugs and gift certificates).
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: BoldJava on January 22, 2011, 12:12:03 PM
Do you have to be a Costco member to get that price and/or free shipping?

Peter sees the word 'free' and lights up like a Christmas tree.

B|Java
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: mp on January 22, 2011, 12:18:34 PM
Do you have to be a Costco member to get that price and/or free shipping?

Peter sees the word 'free' and lights up like a Christmas tree.

B|Java

 ;D
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: CAGurl on January 22, 2011, 01:04:47 PM
Hard to beat the price & return policy of Costco.
([url]http://content.costco.com/Images/Content/Product/435175.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11489830[/url])


Disclaimer: Yes, I own Costco stock.


Way too ugly to live in my kitchen....
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Stubbie on January 23, 2011, 06:38:58 AM
Thanks for posting that Tex...they don't stock those in my local warehouse, so I had no idea they carried them.

$40/ea seems like a great price.  I paid $12 for my current Braun (which has been GREAT) off the scratch and dent at BB&B.  I think it will have a new life out at my shop.

The only thing I wish it had was the ability to set the temp, rather than the pre-sets.

100 will be great for when I'm baking bread

150 is a little too cool for AP - this is the one I'd like to be able to change.

-Stubbie
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: randytsuch on January 23, 2011, 08:01:56 AM
Pino is having a sale for the older version of their kettle

Go to the bottom of the page
http://www.pino-usa2.com/shop.php (http://www.pino-usa2.com/shop.php)

$47, including shipping, at least that's what I paid.

It is part of my work coffee setup now.

Randy
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: rfeuker on February 04, 2011, 05:58:39 AM
Did anyone else buy one of these "old model" Pino kettles?

http://www.pino-usa2.com/shop.php
 (http://www.pino-usa2.com/shop.php)

Mine arrived yesterday and I think I'll be sending it back.  It will not hold the water at any temperature.  No matter where I set the temperature, it just blows by that setting on its way to boiling, then blows by it again on its way back down.  Instructions, such as they are, are pretty simple - just set the temperature to the desired level and the kettle will maintain it.  Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: MMW on February 04, 2011, 08:17:37 AM
Please let us know what you figure out.  The tea drinking crowd and I here at the office have been considering that kettle for our kitchen.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Tex on February 04, 2011, 08:22:51 AM
Please let us know what you figure out.  The tea drinking crowd and I here at the office have been considering that kettle for our kitchen.


Tell me, is that pinkie thingie a conditioned response, or is it genetically imprinted on all humans predisposed to drink tea?
(http://deloissmithallstarteam.typepad.com/allstarteam/images/2007/03/28/scott_having_a_bit_of_tea.jpg)
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: MMW on February 04, 2011, 09:14:30 AM
Please let us know what you figure out.  The tea drinking crowd and I here at the office have been considering that kettle for our kitchen.


Tell me, is that pinkie thingie a conditioned response, or is it genetically imprinted on all humans predisposed to drink tea?
([url]http://deloissmithallstarteam.typepad.com/allstarteam/images/2007/03/28/scott_having_a_bit_of_tea.jpg[/url])


I don't know...you'd have to ask them.  :P  We're highly hot drink Balkanized around here.  The tea drinkers are on the East end of the building, I'm next to them, and the Folgers set occupies the Western 75% of the building.  The tea crowd and I share the common enemy, but that's about it ;D
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: randytsuch on February 04, 2011, 09:54:39 AM
I have been using one at work for a few weeks now.

It is not PID controlled, so it does not hold a temp +/- a degree like a PID would.

First it goes to boil, then it starts dropping.  When it gets around 5 deg below the target temp, it reheats again.

So, it is not ideal, but it works for me.  I turn it on, and wait for it to beep, a few mins. later the temp is down to between 205 and 200, and I make my coffee.

My one other issue with the this kettle is the lip on top makes it hard to emtpy all the water out at night, when I want to let it dry out.

Even with these issues, I am glad I have it, at least I know what the water temp is when I make my coffee.  Between this, a CCD and a Virtuoso grinder, my work coffee is pretty good these days.

Randy
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: BoldJava on February 04, 2011, 09:58:02 AM

Tell me, is that pinkie thingie a conditioned response, or is it genetically imprinted on all humans predisposed to drink tea?
...

It is also a sign of a virile man who knows who he is. 

B|Java
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Richdel on February 04, 2011, 10:07:09 AM
I have the newer Pino kettle.

If you just turn it on by using the "on/off" bottom, then it will go straight to 212dgf.

If you want it to go to the desired temp that you have input, you first need to select
either the "+" or "-", select the temp by going up or down using the "-" or "+", then hitting
"on/off" button.  This causes my kettle to ramp up slowly.  It usually plateau's 2 or 3 times
when going to 205dgf for me.  Once at around 180, another at 194 and the final time at the
desired temp ( in my case 205dgf). 

The first time it will run by 205dgf by a few degrees before settling back to the temp you have
input.  It then holds it within a 5-7dgf ban (ie. it will drop to 197dgf before turning on again
and racing back to 207dgf, then turning back off).

Not sure if the older model works the same or not.  But give it a try.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Tex on February 04, 2011, 10:24:34 AM

Tell me, is that pinkie thingie a conditioned response, or is it genetically imprinted on all humans predisposed to drink tea?
...

It is also a sign of a virile man who knows who he is... 

B|Java

...and wants everyone else to know he's got a stiff finger! ::)
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: rfeuker on February 04, 2011, 10:56:32 AM
Thanks Randy and Richtel for your responses (between the typical BS hijack messages).  I did another trial and it works as you guys described.  Setting a temperature before hitting the On/Off switch has the desired results.  I tried it at a 200 setting.  After about 7 minutes it hit 208 then started back down.  it went as low as 194 after 15 minutes (from start) then started to rise again.  Bottom line - it will maintain the set temperature +- about 6 or 7 degrees.  That's good enough for me - guess I'll be keeping it after all.

Thanks again for your help.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Tex on February 08, 2011, 08:27:20 PM
Thanks Randy and Richtel for your responses (between the typical BS hijack messages).  I did another trial and it works as you guys described.  Setting a temperature before hitting the On/Off switch has the desired results.  I tried it at a 200 setting.  After about 7 minutes it hit 208 then started back down.  it went as low as 194 after 15 minutes (from start) then started to rise again.  Bottom line - it will maintain the set temperature +- about 6 or 7 degrees.  That's good enough for me - guess I'll be keeping it after all.

Thanks again for your help.

Typical, as in average? I thought they were extraordinary examples of the hijacking art! ;D
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on April 12, 2011, 07:23:39 PM
Well my Capresso H2O (http://Capresso H2O) bit the dust after only 4 months. Tonight I flipped it on to boil water and it started sparking and cracking from under the lid, or so it seemed. I unplugged it, turned the switch to the off position, and plugged it back up to try again. The light on the switch comes on but the kettle will not heat.

I've got my eye on one of the Costco units now.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on May 06, 2011, 07:18:25 AM
I've had my Saeco kettle for a couple of weeks now and I have to say that I absolutely love it. It's really nice to be able to get up in the morning and set the temp to 200 and then go about getting ready for work, knowing that when I'm ready to make my coffee it will be at the proper temp.

It also does a great job of holding the temp. When the temp drops to 199 the heating element will come on for a few seconds, just long enough for the temp to rise up to 201 or 202, and then shuts off again.

I also decided to check the accuracy of the temp readout on the kettle. I used and cheap kitchen thermometer and my Tenma unit and I was pleasantly surprised to see that the kettle's temp readout was pretty spot on.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/headchange4u/coffee%20related/IMG_0577.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/headchange4u/coffee%20related/IMG_0575.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/headchange4u/coffee%20related/IMG_0579.jpg)

The kettle feels like it's built like a tank; very solid construction. And I have to admit the way the kettle lights up and changes color depending on water temp is very cool.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on December 26, 2011, 12:13:35 PM
Well my Saeco kettle bit the dust on Christmas Day. It will heat to about 150*F and then shut off. It won't come back on for about 5 minutes and then refuses to heat beyond 160 before shutting down again. Bought in April. Costco say they have a 1 year limited warranty. I sent an email to the company. We will see how their customer service fares.

 I've decided to go with something else, even if Saeco decides to replace my kettle. I'm looking at one of the Pino units right now. It sad that I've gone through 4 brands of kettles in the past couple of years and none of them have lasted except my first kettle, a cheapo Melitta unit (http://iweb.cooking.com/images/products/enlarge/212785e.jpg). Unfortunately I sold it after buying a Capresso H20 that eventually failed (the replacement kettle also failed after about 2 weeks. Capresso replaced it a 3rd time and I promptly sold it).
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Tex on December 26, 2011, 12:41:43 PM
Best damn kettle made - endless supply of consistent 205°F water. And the bottom jug of the 5-cup Yama tabletop vac pot fits perfectly.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: BoldJava on December 26, 2011, 12:42:25 PM
Buy the Pino and forget the rest.

B|Java
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: rfeuker on December 27, 2011, 07:36:42 AM
+1 on the Pino.  Mine has worked flawlessly since last summer.  Of course, if you're looking for a "pour over ready" kettle, the recent travelling road show Bonavita is a good choice IMHO.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Richdel on December 27, 2011, 07:51:15 AM
+1 on the Pino.  Mine has worked flawlessly since last summer.  Of course, if you're looking for a "pour over ready" kettle, the recent travelling road show Bonavita is a good choice IMHO.

+2 on the Pino.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on December 28, 2011, 07:53:31 AM
Interesting bit of news. It would seem that the Saeco kettles have been discontinued. I called the company today and the lady on the phone told me Saeco was bought by Phillips back in September. Phillips decided to discontinue all Saeco kettles and drip makers. The lady on the phone was very nice and will be refunding the purchase price of the kettle.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: EricBNC on December 28, 2011, 08:13:04 AM
Buy the Pino and forget the rest.

B|Java
Pino kettles die just like their cheaper counter parts - it is just more painful when it happens.  The Aroma AWK is so much cheaper with as good a track record.  For tea lower temps matter but with coffee the optimal temp is so close to boiling that precision can be replaced by a thermometer and a few moments of time with a standard kettle.  If you are boiling water for pour over coffee I think the spout shape trumps the PID controller too.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: BoldJava on December 28, 2011, 08:17:53 AM
... I called the company today and the lady on the phone told me Saeco was bought by Phillips back in September...

Old news. Phillips (Dutch) needs to increase their lines to expand revenue so they are in gobbling mode.  They bought a company I had stock in -- I immediately dumped it on the news.  Too big of a conglomerate and their business lines aren't integrated.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Tex on December 28, 2011, 01:21:17 PM
... I called the company today and the lady on the phone told me Saeco was bought by Phillips back in September...

Old news. Phillips (Dutch) needs to increase their lines to expand revenue so they are in gobbling mode.  They bought a company I had stock in -- I immediately dumped it on the news.  Too big of a conglomerate and their business lines aren't integrated.

Very old news - like it happened in mid-2009. This made Philips the parent company of Gaggia of Italy.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: ScareYourPassenger on March 07, 2012, 05:30:46 AM
Has anyone tried the Kalorik kettle. I Bought the Pino but this might be another option for those that still need one.

http://www.amazon.com/Kalorik-JK-28345-Cordless-Electric/dp/B003FGWA5O (http://www.amazon.com/Kalorik-JK-28345-Cordless-Electric/dp/B003FGWA5O)
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: mp on March 07, 2012, 07:34:24 AM
Has anyone tried the Kalorik kettle. I Bought the Pino but this might be another option for those that still need one.

[url]http://www.amazon.com/Kalorik-JK-28345-Cordless-Electric/dp/B003FGWA5O[/url] ([url]http://www.amazon.com/Kalorik-JK-28345-Cordless-Electric/dp/B003FGWA5O[/url])


It has 1440 watts ... that should do a nice job heating your water quickly.

 :)
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: EricBNC on March 07, 2012, 07:59:13 AM
I figure I will recommend my favorite - a Zojirushi Electric Dispensing Post.  Expensive, yes.  Could not live without it.

Has 3 electronic temps 175F for Green Tea, 195F for Coffee, 208F for everything else (like soup, cocoa, etc).

And of course if you buy it at my favorite place, Costco, you can take it back anytime:

[url]http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11280592&search=zojirushi&Mo=1&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Sp=S&N=5000043&whse=BC&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=zojirushi&Ntt=zojirushi&No=1&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1[/url] ([url]http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11280592&search=zojirushi&Mo=1&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Sp=S&N=5000043&whse=BC&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=zojirushi&Ntt=zojirushi&No=1&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1[/url])

Go ahead and indulge yourself - you deserve it.


I had the chance to use one of these at CoffeeCon.  It is on my short list of items to buy - works great.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: jbviau on March 07, 2012, 08:56:41 AM
I'm periodically tempted by the Zojirushis. Seems like 208 degrees would actually be better for coffee than 195, right? Cooling en route to the grounds and all...
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: EricBNC on March 07, 2012, 09:50:37 AM
We used it with the non electric Bonavita Kettle - one touch dispensing is nice - here is a link to the one we used:

http://www.amazon.com/Zojirushi-CD-WBC30-Electric-3-Liter-Champagne/dp/B0011528S0 (http://www.amazon.com/Zojirushi-CD-WBC30-Electric-3-Liter-Champagne/dp/B0011528S0)
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: hankua on March 07, 2012, 10:40:49 AM
I've been using this type of appliance for 20 years, popular in Asian households. I bought the 3L Zoe several years ago; it's a little short for coffee IMHO, get the 4L for the extra height. The CCD on a scale is too tall for the one in my kitchen.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: EricBNC on May 08, 2012, 08:30:41 PM
Bonavita is coming out with a new one liter PID kettle - no plastic/water contact, goose neck pouring spout, and good temp stability even with only 250 mL sitting in the kettle.  Here is a couple links for those who are curious:

http://www.home-barista.com/brewing/bonavita-pid-kettle-1st-look-t21603.html (http://www.home-barista.com/brewing/bonavita-pid-kettle-1st-look-t21603.html)

http://www.clivecoffee.com/learn/2012/04/bonavita-variable-electric-kettle-a-first-look/ (http://www.clivecoffee.com/learn/2012/04/bonavita-variable-electric-kettle-a-first-look/)

(http://i45.tinypic.com/v9ffc.jpg)
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: staylor on May 08, 2012, 08:56:00 PM
I saw that Bonavita at SCAA and was told it will be coming out this Summer, which might mean this Fall. Either way it's what I'm planning on getting.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: BoldJava on January 03, 2013, 06:47:46 AM
Buy the Pino and forget the rest.

B|Java

My Pino lasted 13 months.  Heating system quit.  I have a call into tech support to see if we can troubleshoot it but I am doubtful.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on January 03, 2013, 09:24:29 AM
Buy the Pino and forget the rest.

B|Java


My Pino lasted 13 months.  Heating system quit.  I have a call into tech support to see if we can troubleshoot it but I am doubtful.


My Pino is on the verge of failing also. Temperature readings are eradicate at times and the when setting the unit to a predetermined  setting, say 200*F, it blows past it to a boil and then the temp will drop way past the preset before the heat kicks back on. The ability to hold a temperature has never been as precise on the Pino as some of the other kettles I have owned, but it has never been that bad.

This makes probably the 8 or 9th kettle that has gone belly up on me, all various brands. Sadly, my first kettle, a $24 Melitta that came from target, which was sold to a friend and ended up back at work, is still going strong. It seems the more expensive the unit, the less reliable.

I'm thinking that I may forgo the electric kettle on my next purchase and go with a hot water dispenser similar to this:

(http://www.hotwaterdispenserdeals.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/secura-4-quart-electric-water-boiler-and-warmer-airpot-swb-43g-1810-stainless-steel-interior-new-photo-1.jpg)

It does not have the fine temperature control as some of the kettles I have owned but it has good ratings, almost twice the water capacity of  most the kettles out there (a big plus when you fill a kettle as many times a day as I do), and is cheaper than kettle with temp control.

I've also been looking at sink/counter mounted hot water systems similar to what is pictured below, but I have not done enough research to take the plunge on such a unit.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41yTf0cNrSL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: SJM on January 03, 2013, 09:35:04 AM
This all makes me think I should pull the Aroma back off the shelf and use it for all of the boiling that doesn't require temp control so that the Bonavita Temp Control kettle is only used when I need its capabilities....thereby hopefully making it last longer....

Susan

Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: BoldJava on January 03, 2013, 10:24:41 AM
..thinking of this kettle..



What brand is that? 
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: SJM on January 03, 2013, 11:07:33 AM
It looks like this Secura
http://www.amazon.com/Secura-Electric-SWB-43G-Stainless-Interior/dp/B005GJSBEC/ref=pd_sim_sbs_k_12 (http://www.amazon.com/Secura-Electric-SWB-43G-Stainless-Interior/dp/B005GJSBEC/ref=pd_sim_sbs_k_12)

Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: mp on January 03, 2013, 11:34:51 AM
Not too bad a price for that one.

 :)
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on January 03, 2013, 01:01:52 PM
..thinking of this kettle..




What brand is that? 


Sorry about that. I should have posted the link. Yes, that is the Secura.

Two different Models on Amazon that interest me. The only difference I see is that one has the added temp of 194*F, as well as 208* and 174*F.

SW-43
http://www.amazon.com/Secura-Electric-SWB-43G-Stainless-Interior/dp/B005GJSBEC/ref=pd_sim_sbs_k_12 (http://www.amazon.com/Secura-Electric-SWB-43G-Stainless-Interior/dp/B005GJSBEC/ref=pd_sim_sbs_k_12)

SW-42
http://www.amazon.com/Secura-Electric-SWB-42G-Stainless-Interior/dp/B005GJT1Q4/ref=pd_sim_k_3 (http://www.amazon.com/Secura-Electric-SWB-42G-Stainless-Interior/dp/B005GJT1Q4/ref=pd_sim_k_3)


I've always read that Zojirushi are the best when it comes to dispensers, but the Secura models have almost the sames customer ratings, same capacity, same temperature presets, but half the price.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: BoldJava on January 05, 2013, 08:04:43 AM
Got a hold of Sweetmarias and the 13-month Pico is well out of warranty.  They suggested contacting Pino.  I was going to order another Pino but a 3-day no response on Pino's v/m and an email to them suggest that would be a poor decision.

Grabbed this e-kettle (1.2L) off eBay because it's the ugliest one I could find.  In addition,Kamjove has no plastic windows/contacts with the water; all stainless steel. $49 shipped from Queens, NY.


(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q36/blade915/Kamjove/v80.jpg)
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Cammie on January 05, 2013, 08:28:55 AM
If you decide to go for one of the Securas, there are two promotion codes you can choose from....one is for an additional 10% off the kettle (10MOREBF); the other is to purchase this grinder for $25.99, spend at least $49.99 altogether and receive $25 off (CGRINDER):

http://www.amazon.com/Secura-Electric-Coffee-Grinder-Stainless-Steel/dp/B0096742F2/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1357402828&sr=1-1&keywords=Secura+Electric+Coffee+and+Spice+Grinder+with+Stainless-Steel+Blades (http://www.amazon.com/Secura-Electric-Coffee-Grinder-Stainless-Steel/dp/B0096742F2/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1357402828&sr=1-1&keywords=Secura+Electric+Coffee+and+Spice+Grinder+with+Stainless-Steel+Blades)
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: tyme on January 05, 2013, 07:18:02 PM
Buy the Pino and forget the rest.

B|Java

My Pino lasted 13 months.  Heating system quit.  I have a call into tech support to see if we can troubleshoot it but I am doubtful.

Mine did the same thing the day before my family arrived for xmas. It just kept beeping at me. I had a moment of "how do I heat water for coffee?!"....Then remembered the tea kettle. 

I ordered the one in Celsius directly from Pino (actually two since shipping was the same).  I'll also try to get in touch with them/him.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: tyme on January 05, 2013, 07:23:01 PM

My Pino is on the verge of failing also. Temperature readings are eradicate at times and the when setting the unit to a predetermined  setting, say 200*F, it blows past it to a boil and then the temp will drop way past the preset before the heat kicks back on. The ability to hold a temperature has never been as precise on the Pino as some of the other kettles I have owned, but it has never been that bad.


Headchange,  Are you selecting the temp before pressing the on/off button?  Mine would hold the temp within 1 degree C. as long as I wasn't boiling a very small amount. A small amount would shut off at the set temp but then blow past. 
This is at least what the kettle's temp display would show.
Title: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on January 05, 2013, 08:56:26 PM

Headchange,  Are you selecting the temp before pressing the on/off button?  Mine would hold the temp within 1 degree C. as long as I wasn't boiling a very small amount. A small amount would shut off at the set temp but then blow past. 
This is at least what the kettle's temp display would show.

That's my process, but the temps are becoming erratic. For example, it will show the temp at 185 and the next second it will be like 70 and then jump back up into the triple digits the next second. Sometimes it will blow past a pre-set temp to a boil and sometimes it works as it should

 Even when it worked perfectly it never held the temperature within 1° C of a pre-set. If I have the temperature set at 200 F it will go up to around 205-207 F and then drop back down around 192-194 F before the heat will come back on.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: BoldJava on January 06, 2013, 02:50:49 AM
... If I have the temperature set at 200 F it will go up to around 205-207 F and then drop back down around 192-194 F before the heat will come back on.

Mine had that large drift as well from the get go.  I had mine set at 207 and it didn't hold it there.  It would drift to 198 and then take it to 210.

When I read a ton of reviews at Amazon, there isn't a kettle that gets ringing endorsements.  There seem to be 3 recurring issues, with samplings larger than you would anticipate:
1.  Kettles quit within days/weeks.
2.  Plastic in contact with the water during heating
3.  Off-taste in the water; smell in the kettle


Electric kettles seem to be made to throw away.  For whatever reason, I can picture my grandmother's electric sitting on her counter forever, the kind you had to unplug when you poured.  "Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio..."
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Richdel on January 12, 2013, 05:40:50 AM
Don't know anything about this electric kettle.
I currently have a Pino kettle.
Just saw the deal in my email inbox.

http://www.bjs.com/jan1013.product.228412? (http://www.bjs.com/jan1013.product.228412?)
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: BoldJava on January 12, 2013, 11:04:46 AM
...
Grabbed this e-kettle (1.2L) off eBay because it's the ugliest one I could find.  In addition,Kamjove has no plastic windows/contacts with the water; all stainless steel. $49 shipped from Queens, NY.
...

1st Impressions:
Czarina says, "It's cute."  Oh my.
1.  Cheap.  Very light grade SS, black food grade enamel.
2.  Ill designed/poorly manufactured.  Kettle rocks in the base. 
3.  40.5 oz to boil from tap, 4:00 min.
4.  Setting on automatic lets it drift to 170* and then back to boil in 1.5 minutes.

I wrote EBay retailer about the rocking.  Bet I never hear anything.  I will keep it -- if I had kids, I wouldn't let them use it for the rocking.

My prediction.  As much as I dislike this out of the gate due to its inability to set firmly, this thing will last indefinitely.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: peter on January 12, 2013, 11:35:40 AM
The stuff you don't care for lasts forever, and the stuff you really like craps out in no time.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: SJM on January 12, 2013, 01:50:41 PM
The stuff you don't care for lasts forever, and the stuff you really like craps out in no time.

Nope.
Not really.
If it craps out in no time your caring stops and its actual worth (lessness) is revealed.

Stuff that lasts earns the caring...



Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on April 03, 2013, 06:33:45 AM
Well, the Pino bit the dust this morning, and it about took my house with it.

As per my normal morning routine, I go to the kitchen, feed the cats, fill the kettle, and turn it on to my preset temperature of 201*F. I went back upstairs to continue getting ready for work. I come back down the stairs about 15 minutes later and I hear what sounds like running water as I approach the kitchen. What I had mistaken for running water was in fact my Pino kettle at a ROLLING boil. It was boiling so hard that water was spraying out of the spout (kettle was only about half full). There was also a thick smell of ozone in the air, and the display on the base unit was off, but still the water continued to boil. I ran over and grabbed the kettle of the base. Once I got the kettle removed I could see smoke wafting out of the base around the area where it makes contact with the kettle. I sincerely believe that the unit would have been on fire if I had not gotten to it when I did.

So now I'm off to Amazon to find a new kettle. I will not be a Pino. Thanks goodness for my Prime $3.99 overnight shipping.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: BoldJava on April 03, 2013, 06:56:17 AM
Well, the Pino bit the dust this morning, and it about took my house with it.

...

I attempted to contact Pino, without success both via email and phone, when mine bit the dust.  I have little good to say about them.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on April 03, 2013, 07:02:57 AM
Well, the Pino bit the dust this morning, and it about took my house with it.

...

I attempted to contact Pino, without success both via email and phone, when mine bit the dust.  I have little good to say about them.

I thought about contacting them, but it would be nothing more than a bitch session. I don't want another Pino product in my house.

BTW,

If anyone wants an extra kettle for their Pino you can have mine. I think the kettle is fine. It was the base that malfunctioned IMHO.

Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: fore on April 03, 2013, 07:29:12 AM
Boy, am I glad I went for the Bonavita!  Lucky HC4U that you caught that in time!
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: JW on April 03, 2013, 07:36:22 AM
I have the Kalorik. I bought it last August when my very old Phillips bit the dust. I have never owned a Pino. I really wanted something that held more than 1L or 1qt though, so many of the kettles out there were not the correct volume.

http://www.amazon.com/Kalorik-Cordless-Electric-Kettle-Stainless/dp/B003FGWA5O/ref=pd_sbs_k_7 (http://www.amazon.com/Kalorik-Cordless-Electric-Kettle-Stainless/dp/B003FGWA5O/ref=pd_sbs_k_7)

It is a rugged beast. This thing has travelled with me many times as well as being my household kettle. A few caveats. It is single wall stainless, so if you grab the outside when the water is 200F , you will burn yourself. The ergonomics of the handle  are great and while you are stuck with preset temperatures, I have checked them via a thermoprobe and they were right on. The temperature sensor is a metal thermocouple, which is really nice too. I really only use it to boil anyway. It does have a keep warm function to maintain a temperature, but I have never used it. The so called filter screen is not a filter screen at all. Not a problem for me though as my water is really good where I live and I really don't have a scale problem (I have never had to descale it).  Reviewers on amazon have complained about the top button for opening the kettle, but I haven't had the slightest problem with mine. I would buy another one assuming it didn't almost catch on fire like your Pino did.

Edit. One thing I forgot to mention is that the water does not come in contact with plastic during the boil. This was important for me.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on April 03, 2013, 08:22:59 AM
I'm also looking at this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Hamilton-Beach-40996-Programmable-1-7-Liter/dp/B0083I7THI/ref=sr_1_34?ie=UTF8&qid=1364997964&sr=8-34&keywords=electric+kettle (http://www.amazon.com/Hamilton-Beach-40996-Programmable-1-7-Liter/dp/B0083I7THI/ref=sr_1_34?ie=UTF8&qid=1364997964&sr=8-34&keywords=electric+kettle)
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: SJM on April 03, 2013, 08:45:49 AM
The Aroma Kettle is a workhorse !!!!
Cheap.  Attractive. 

http://www.amazon.com/Aroma-AWK-115S-X-Press-2-Liter-Cordless/dp/B000KDVTJI (http://www.amazon.com/Aroma-AWK-115S-X-Press-2-Liter-Cordless/dp/B000KDVTJI)

I tried the Bonavita temp controlled kettle and thought it was just totally annoying. Bells and whistles that all have to be trained and dealt with.  Give me fast boiling water and I can manage the rest.

 
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on April 03, 2013, 08:57:16 AM
The Aroma Kettle is a workhorse !!!!
Cheap.  Attractive. 

[url]http://www.amazon.com/Aroma-AWK-115S-X-Press-2-Liter-Cordless/dp/B000KDVTJI[/url] ([url]http://www.amazon.com/Aroma-AWK-115S-X-Press-2-Liter-Cordless/dp/B000KDVTJI[/url])

I tried the Bonavita temp controlled kettle and thought it was just totally annoying. Bells and whistles that all have to be trained and dealt with.  Give me fast boiling water and I can manage the rest.

 


I know it's sad, but I really have become accustomed to a kettle with some type of temp control/display. It has become a must have feature for me.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: Tex on April 03, 2013, 09:36:58 AM
My daughter has this one: http://www.costco.com/Jura-Capresso-H2O-Pro-Kettle.product.11747743.html (http://www.costco.com/Jura-Capresso-H2O-Pro-Kettle.product.11747743.html)

It's programmable, which she like for baby formula, and I like for her AP I use. It has a easily directable stream from the spout.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: SJM on April 03, 2013, 09:38:28 AM
I know it's sad, but I really have become accustomed to a kettle with some type of temp control/display. It has become a must have feature for me.

Are you surprised that I still insist on driving a car with a manual transmission too????
 :-[

Susan
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on April 03, 2013, 09:59:02 AM
My daughter has this one: [url]http://www.costco.com/Jura-Capresso-H2O-Pro-Kettle.product.11747743.html[/url] ([url]http://www.costco.com/Jura-Capresso-H2O-Pro-Kettle.product.11747743.html[/url])

It's programmable, which she like for baby formula, and I like for her AP I use. It has a easily directable stream from the spout.



I've had one of the Capresso glass kettles and was on my 3rd unit when I sold it to a friend. The last unit I sent back for replacement had arcs of blue electricity coming out of it. The guy I sold it to has had to replace it once. His current one seems to work fine.

Capresso has great customer service, but I'm a little wary of their products now.

I ended up getting the unit JW suggested. I skipped the Hamilton Beach because some of the reviews stated there were rubber pieces inside the kettle that come in contact with the water.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: headchange4u on April 03, 2013, 01:49:31 PM
I went home an cracked open the base of the Pino, just to see if I could figure out what happened. It was pretty obvious once I got the case apart: exploded capacitor, burned/melted wiring, and 2 different sections of circuit board fried, including a bank of diodes. Shots of the carnage:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/headchange4u/IMG_2128.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/headchange4u/IMG_2125.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/headchange4u/IMG_2127.jpg)
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: JW on April 03, 2013, 01:57:55 PM
Wow. I'm surprised you didn't hear that capacitor explode even upstairs. I had one pop on me a few years ago and my ears were ringing for days.
Title: Re: Recommendations for an Electric Kettle?
Post by: ecc on April 03, 2013, 03:52:26 PM
Double wow!  Good thing you caught that when you did.