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Re: Pourover Kettle Thread
« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2012, 11:42:01 AM »

Why?

Time like Susan said.

Electric kettles are like lightening fast compared to stovetop kettle heating.
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Re: Pourover Kettle Thread
« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2012, 11:47:23 AM »

And the white jammies, how do they fit?


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Re: Pourover Kettle Thread
« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2012, 11:51:05 AM »

Why?


Time like Susan said.

Electric kettles are like lightening fast compared to stovetop kettle heating.


Gotcha.  Thanks.


And the white jammies, how do they fit?






If you wear them, how do know if you're awake or asleep?   :o

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Re: Pourover Kettle Thread
« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2012, 11:57:47 AM »


If you wear them, how do know if you're awake or asleep?   :o


Two old sayings explain it best.

In a con if you can't spot the mark it's you.
At a poker table if you can't spot the fish it's you.

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Re: Pourover Kettle Thread
« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2012, 02:07:39 PM »
Christmas Cettles (hard "ch" soft, as in cello).


Thought I would put a list of gooseneck kettles together so folks could add one to their list of "wished for gifts" and hand it to their spouses/partners.  I would buy any of them except the Hario.  The Hario is the least precise pour of those I have tested.  (There will be a post-Christmas sale of all the leftover cettles starting on Jan 2nd).

Members can offer their own impressions/reviews of those they have used.  Kettles to konsider:


1.  Takahiro - John's ticket:  $120.  2.  Hario - most common one out there:  $53:  3.  Bonavita - has put a dent in Hario sales:  $30/plain kettle for stove.  4.  Bonavita electric kettle:  $50  5.  Bonavita variable/constant temp kettle:  $90  6.  Tiamo kettles, entire spectrum of stove kettles, .42L to 1.6L kettles:  7.  Kalita Wave kettle:  $107.  8.  My Paico kettle:  $33 shipped from Hong Kong.


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Re: Pourover Kettle Thread
« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2012, 02:13:12 PM »
If I could find any reason at all to do it I'd grab that Bonavita to do a side by side but I'd have had to get the Bonavita first to do it.. :-\ 

My sense is that the Tiamo is very good and the Kalita a bit better but the ones I'm curious about are the $30 Bonivita and the one with the wooden handle because they stand to deliver results above their modest price points.

No idea where to get it but casual products makes the wood handle one.
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Re: Pourover Kettle Thread
« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2012, 02:16:52 PM »
I would buy any of them except the Hario.  The Hario is the least precise pour of those I have tested.

Damn....
Guess the Bonavita Electric is gonna be my next chettle....

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Re: Pourover Kettle Thread
« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2012, 07:42:00 PM »
This is the closest I've found to the single drop kettle brew technique.



That is the kettle that I grabbed 6 of and sold to the guys at $5/each.

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Re: Pourover Kettle Thread
« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2012, 07:55:38 PM »
This is the closest I've found to the single drop kettle brew technique.



That is the kettle that I grabbed 6 of and sold to the guys at $5/each.

And it works even better than that rookie in the video.
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Re: Pourover Kettle Thread
« Reply #39 on: December 08, 2012, 04:56:32 AM »
They should have made it with foot controls...
Nay. Remote control.

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Re: Pourover Kettle Thread
« Reply #40 on: December 08, 2012, 06:01:25 AM »
I wouldn't want to stove heat but the idea they say not too makes me wonder if it's thin.


I do like the spout shape and rustic wood handle look.
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Re: Pourover Kettle Thread
« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2012, 08:20:52 AM »
Looks to me as if the design of the handle would make the kettle harder to control than the Buono is.  I get it that the Buono is now the bottom of the heap, but I can't see how this kettle could be better given how far your hand would be from the point at which you would be trying to control the pour.   

Is there a face-off somewhere that I missed between the Takahiro and the Bonavita Electric?  I'm  looking for the best pour that doesn't require a transfer from the heating kettle to the pouring kettle.  And I'm not actually unhappy with the Aroma-Buono combination, but....a better pour is a better pour....

Which leads me in a roundabout fashion to my last point:  is a drop-at-a-time really desirable?  How the bleep could it possibly finish in a reasonable amount of time????

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Re: Pourover Kettle Thread
« Reply #42 on: December 08, 2012, 09:02:22 AM »
... I get it that the Buono is now the bottom of the heap, but I can't see how this kettle could be better given how far your hand would be from the point at which you would be trying to control the pour.   

Is there a face-off somewhere that I missed between the Takahiro and the Bonavita Electric?  ...

Which leads me in a roundabout fashion to my last point:  is a drop-at-a-time really desirable?

We each will have a different take on this and I will offer mine. 

You are going to get an excellent pour and control effort from your Hario Buono.  Hario was the first out of the gate with a home-kettle that spoke to the needs of a homebrewer.  Their tip is more blunt that the rest of the pack.  Despite that, I doubt that I could discern in a blind cupping that Hario vs the Takahiro.

When it comes to kettles, 3 (possibly 4) things are important:
1)  Volume.  I want nothing less than a liter -- that is the size I need to brew the KONE/Chemex set-up.
2)  Ability to heat on the stove.
3)  Tip.  Dropping the water in a flow desired, where desired, is the ultimate control.  No, you don't need to put a single drop down anywhere.  Knowing you can, though, is fun and gives John bragging rights at this point because I believe he can do that with the Takahiro.
4) Aesthetics.

I know of no one on any of the coffee boards who has put the Takahiro to the test against the Bonavita.

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Re: Pourover Kettle Thread
« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2012, 09:06:43 AM »
Thanks B/J
I think that answers all my questions.
The only one left is whether I need/want a Bonavita Electric so as to eliminate the transfer and heat loss in going from the Aroma to the Buono.
The Bonavita is in my "cart" at Amazon along with a Hario Range Server....
Question is whether or not these will be my Xmas to myself....:-))))

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Re: Pourover Kettle Thread
« Reply #44 on: December 08, 2012, 09:07:17 AM »
A race car has a top speed but you don't drive it at top.....maybe ever.

But you can.

More control is better.

For the record I've brewed zero one drop at a time cups. But I have dropped single drops in pinpoint spots. I also giggled when I did it.  ;D
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