Can you roast inside?
Monito
Here's the most hitech machine in this forum ... can run w/o electricity! ;DAre you in Mali for real?
Got this from SM, paid an arm an a leg for shipping to Timbuktu. Improvised the crank coz I overloaded it against Tom's advice, so I overheated the plastic gears and thus stopped working. So now it's w/o gears, I have roasted up to a pound so far.
Bobby T.
Are you in Mali for real?No Sir! But from where you are, I'm even farther than Timbuktu. :) I'm sure you've heard of Timbuktu, but I'm sure you haven't heard of the place called Iligan yet.
Well, the only Iligan I know is in the Philippines. I don't see the relation between Iligan and Timbuktu...Are you in Mali for real?No Sir! But from where you are, I'm even farther than Timbuktu. :) I'm sure you've heard of Timbuktu, but I'm sure you haven't heard of the place called Iligan yet.
BobT
2.5Kg Artigiano Electric Roaster. We get along pretty well and it will do 4#-4.5# of greens without any trouble.Good luck...I get 1st crack at around 365 F which is waaaaayyy too early on my book, normally 390-400 F depending on coffee.
I wish it did a better job on the 1/2# samples I get - still trying to dial that in, but the low bean mass in the drum makes it interesting. I still use the SC/CO for those most of the time.
-Stubbie
Man ... I salute you guys.I decided that I'll rather spend money in my coffee hobbie rather than lunches and going out drinking. I bet my friends at work have spent more money in drinks that I'll ever spend in coffee equipment. I'm saving for a commercial espresso... ;D
I've only got a lowly Fresh Roast 8 +. It works well and is cheap.
Is it really worth spending $300.00 and above for a roaster?
I decided that I'll rather spend money in my coffee hobbie rather than lunches and going out drinking. I bet my friends at work have spent more money in drinks that I'll ever spend in coffee equipment. I'm saving for a commercial espresso... ;D
Monito
...snip...I have roasted coffee in my Rosto, TurboCrazy, iRoast and other air roasters. I will admit that the drum roaster makes a big difference.
So does that roaster make the coffee beans taste that much better than the Fresh Roast Plus 8?
I have roasted coffee in my Rosto, TurboCrazy, iRoast and other air roasters. I will admit that the drum roaster makes a big difference.
I bought this roaster because it was a good deal, otherwise I wouldn't have spend the money on it.
All that said, I came to prove today that Coffee Makers are as important.
I brewed some Yemen this morning at home in my Newco, it was awesome... :o
I went to work and brewed the same exact thing, and it was mediocre... ??? what a disappointment!!!
Monito
The brewer...A regular Mr. Coffee...I have roasted coffee in my Rosto, TurboCrazy, iRoast and other air roasters. I will admit that the drum roaster makes a big difference.
I bought this roaster because it was a good deal, otherwise I wouldn't have spend the money on it.
All that said, I came to prove today that Coffee Makers are as important.
I brewed some Yemen this morning at home in my Newco, it was awesome... :o
I went to work and brewed the same exact thing, and it was mediocre... ??? what a disappointment!!!
Monito
Why the disappointment? Was it the bean or was the roast off?
Well, the only Iligan I know is in the Philippines. I don't see the relation between Iligan and Timbuktu...How'd you get to know my hometown? It's just that it's so far from most people. :)
MontioYou like that...That is brass I shine it once a week!!!
Is that baby made out of real gold? or just gold plated? ;D
I know a lot o people from around the globe :angel:Well, the only Iligan I know is in the Philippines. I don't see the relation between Iligan and Timbuktu...How'd you get to know my hometown? It's just that it's so far from most people. :)
Oh ... I see ... you do mostly drip? Ever do espresso?Both, but mostly drip...
Yes I do, reminds me of when I was in NYC and all the hotels had their brass fire hose connections polished... they did it every day.
You like that...That is brass I shine it once a week!!!
Monito
I've only got a lowly Fresh Roast 8 +. It works well and is cheap.I started with the FR+8. But it roasts too small a batch I had to roast at least once a day. Maybe mine was a bad unit, the thermal fuse gets busted maybe 2x a month, and the beans become charcoal in maybe 5mins max, such that I was roasting in 2-3 mins. Too expensive to send it back for repair/replacement. I regretted spending $90 on that one. Now very happy with the cheapo Whirley Pop popcorn maker, which can roast a lb. And I can use it in succession, with no problem of busted fuses.
Is it really worth spending $300.00 and above for a roaster?
I started with the FR+8. But it roasts too small a batch I had to roast at least once a day. Maybe mine was a bad unit, the thermal fuse gets busted maybe 2x a month, and the beans become charcoal in maybe 5mins max, such that I was roasting in 2-3 mins. Too expensive to send it back for repair/replacement. I regretted spending $90 on that one. Now very happy with the cheapo Whirley Pop popcorn maker, which can roast a lb. And I can use it in succession, with no problem of busted fuses.That is interesting Bob ... I've had mine for a year and a half. Never a problem with it. It does take me dark in 4 1/2 minutes but coffee is good. From what I understand the drum roasters make the coffee taste sweeter. That is good if you are brewing espresso.
BobT
Have another post on this but why not put it in 2 ;D ;D ;DHave you roasted with it yet?
Just got it!!
You mentioned that drum on the package you sent me:pIt will be my pleasure, just say the word-pm me.
That looks great indeed. Even better than the one I've seen on Sweet maria's franken-thingy (I am sure that pages is old news to all of you)
Any plans on offering to make this for members?
I am quite intrigued. Never would I admit I couldn't make that, but to say your execution seems very nice and I would love to roast with it!
Awesome!
Felix
I have some more "proper" pix, but I think ya'll have seen it already. Here's an early "action" shot...
Probat L12
I have some more "proper" pix, but I think ya'll have seen it already. Here's an early "action" shot...
Probat L12
[DROOL MODE ON]I have that identical roaster, but has never been able to roast that even...nice!!!
man oh man.....what the heck am I doing here on this site? There's some SERIOUS roasting going on here......
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My humble setup (SC/TO)
Terry
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man oh man.....what the heck am I doing here on this site? There's some SERIOUS roasting going on here......
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My humble setup (SC/TO)
Terry
Joe
Do you vent your sonofresco? Or just breath all that smoke? ;D
I can't tell in the photo.
Cleaning the vent........hmmmmm I havent' done that.
I used to vent it, ........ and cleaning the opening of all the collected resins.
Joe
Joe,
What does the PID does for you on your sample roaster?
Would it help me with my iRoast?
I have one on my big roaster, but that is way different.
monito
You must be talking about the gorgeous new Ambex YM-2K, yes?
I wonder why only some of us can see the pic... ?
The newest addition to my family. I bought it today and have a couple batches on it. ...
It's awesome it basically becomes a mini electric programable sonofresco. It fully automates any profile I want for roasting, I use mine as a sample roaster so I have 4 setpoints on my profile and then I have it shut heat off and turn to cooling (fan only). I have it set currently for a 440F finish temp which is where I am calibrated for cupping, I might adjust the finish temp slightly if I feel like I need to go lighter but for the most part it is extremely consistant.
Joe
edit:If you can seperate the heating element to its own 120vac plug you can PID the Iroast
I bet you drove down to Clearwater and picked it up? You sneak you...
I have been to their factory and their classroom which they have at their office/espresso store. This people are very nice, Terry, his wife and crew.The newest addition to my family. I bought it today and have a couple batches on it. ...
I can now roast vicariously thru you on an Ambex. Happy for you. You have now taken the lead for who has the biggest toy in our Cabal. Except this really isn't a toy.
I bet you drove down to Clearwater and picked it up? You sneak you...
B|Java
It's awesome it basically becomes a mini electric programable sonofresco. It fully automates any profile I want for roasting, I use mine as a sample roaster so I have 4 setpoints on my profile and then I have it shut heat off and turn to cooling (fan only). I have it set currently for a 440F finish temp which is where I am calibrated for cupping, I might adjust the finish temp slightly if I feel like I need to go lighter but for the most part it is extremely consistant.
Joe
edit:If you can seperate the heating element to its own 120vac plug you can PID the Iroast
Hey Yo GO GI Joe ... is that a separate self contained PID unit? How much does that baby go for?
Ciao
Did you get this batch to a 2nd crack?
I never get that smoke unless is into a rolling 2nd crack...
Monito
I wish this was my Roaster... Has any body got a clue were this came from?
No idea what it's from, but I do know I'd like to buy it from you.
......Sweet. :P... unless of course you were to close then !?!?!? Ouch :o ?!?!?!
I also fear propane greatly - let's just say there was a period during my youth where I got interested in thermodynamics and accelerants and I had a bad experience with a propane tank and a .22 long...
Understand the house burning thing - thus the Roasting Shack I built.......
I have converted the YM-15 to propane, but I have yet to dig the trench to tie in the power to the building. I'll need to have enough power to run the Behmor and/or SC-TO, an espresso machine, grinder, laptop, lights, air-conditioner, flat-screen TV, in addition to the motors on the YM-15 and booster fan on the exhaust.
Understand the house burning thing - thus the Roasting Shack I built. I also fear propane greatly - let's just say there was a period during my youth where I got interested in thermodynamics and accelerants and I had a bad experience with a propane tank and a .22 long...
Here is my new machine installed. I run on 2, 100 lb propane tanks with a switchover valve so I don't run out.
Shep
Shep, how many roasts can you do on a 100lb tank? Just curious, because this is what I'm looking to do, until I can find a good deal on a 500lb tank (tho' it might be less expensive for me to carry the 100lb tanks to be refilled, than to have a truck deliver). Also, do you monitoring the flow and consider this in your profile?
Thanks,
Woody
My Fresh Roast is on the way out- it is now unable to deliver a really dark bean- and is unable to roast the Costa Rican that I got from a distribution to an espresso dark.
Spend the money-either go way popcorn popper cheap or $495+ expensive- no picture- not proud
That is some beast mattquest! So you were roasting commercially?
:)
Perspective... it's a close up.. I think its about a 5lb max roaster.. otherwise that is one monstrous trier :)
It's the Economy model, no upgrades... but there will be.
Why whats going on with Ambex?
Why whats going on with Ambex?
I think he was referring to millow's propensity to make his own mods ([url]http://www.greencoffeebuyingclub.com/index.php?topic=5382.0[/url])
At least that's the rumor. Has anyone seen any of these mods? ::)
Why whats going on with Ambex?
I think he was referring to millow's propensity to make his own mods ([url]http://www.greencoffeebuyingclub.com/index.php?topic=5382.0[/url])
At least that's the rumor. Has anyone seen any of these mods? ::)
Tex has roaster envy... poor little fella... I'm sure he'll get a drum roaster one of these days ;D ;D
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Take Mrs. T. antique shopping in Alexandria, VA, stay with us, and use the saved hotel fees for a roaster. Run it up the flagpole to see if it flies! :angel:I know, hard not to buy it... it was a great deal too.
Yeah, but Mrs T wanted to go to an antique auction in Memphis next month, so I'll wait on my drum roaster. You know how it is with us married men, when the wife's happy we're tickled pink! ;D
BobTimo,
I just bought one of these whirley pops to roast with. Switched from a hot air popper which kept breaking and lacked body in the cup. Any advice before I run my first batch? Will be roasting for both press and espresso, respectively.
That's a great idea. I did that. Works well. I seems like the 400 degree preheat temp Tom recommends is too high. So far I've scorched the batch a little before it even reached first crack. What preheat temp do you use? I was thinking about trying it at 200 F.
When you are roasting beans from the southern hemisphere, make sure the drum is rotating counterclockwise. That's how the beans like it, and you'll get moar flavor out of them.
I got this up and running this december.
Diedrich IR-3
I got this up and running this december.
Diedrich IR-3
Thanks mp - not sure why mine didn't work. It showed up in the preview before I posted...
-Stubbie
Check out the rig
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Yet another shameless Wisconsin plug.
You have no idea how hard it is to be humble when you live in Wisconsin.
B|Java
Yet another shameless Wisconsin plug.
You have no idea how hard it is to be humble when you live in Wisconsin.
B|Java
Keep that to yourself. We don't want Tex moving up here; we'd have to leave.
Yet another shameless Wisconsin plug.
You have no idea how hard it is to be humble when you live in Wisconsin.
B|Java
Keep that to yourself. We don't want Tex moving up here; we'd have to leave.
Go ahead and yell it from the mountain: No thanks - Tex doesn't live anywhere that cold - Seattle was bad enough!
Here is one of my roaster.... sort of.
It's a traditional roaster from Ethiopia. They put hot coals in the bottom Clay chamber and then once hot, put green coffee on the metal pan. They roast the beans, crush them and make coffee in a clay pot (see one in show off your espresso machine topic)
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Here is the Ambex YM-15 (15kilo, 33lbs) I just purchased. I'm baby-stepping my way to serious coffee roasting, and I had a lead from the SCAA conference on this roaster.
I bought it from Stone Cup Roasting Co. If you are ever in Chattanooga, stop by and visit them - this are wonderful to work with. Jennifer Stone may be the reason I got into roasting, when I stopped into her shop on the way to a fishing trip in Snowbird Mts. Their roaster Bryan and I roasted a couple of batches of coffee on it, prior to tearing it down for me to carry home. Come-alongs are a roaster-movers friend...
I just finished building my "roasting shack" (did I nick that from BW?) and I didn't plan to put a production roaster into it - it's a good thing that I haven't run power to it yet, and I'll be converting the Ambex from natural gas to propane. But I have proper clearances around the roaster, and will probably expand the building soon. I just wrestled the 800lb roaster into the shack - again, come-alongs are a roaster-movers friend...
Once it's up and running, I'll post more pictures. The first pic is at their site; the second the "roasting shack", the third a close-up. I'm really excited about being able to roast
you could sell it to a guy here in Wisconsin after you are done. 8)
Can you give me a rough idea on the price? I am looking for a roaster in the 1 to 2 kilo range, plus I like that with this one (as compared to the Sonofresco), I can do small sample batches.
Also, do you have a discussion thread where you gave a review of your roaster?
Here's a roaster I made from a stainless milk can and a Tormek knife sharpener.
I admit that the sharpener was an afterthought. I blew up my gear motor and the Tormek was gathering dust, so why not? Plus I can sharpen a knife until first crack, after which, I'm all over it. It easily and evenly roasts 32 ounces (dry measure).
Almost as useful is my shop dust collector cooler which cools a couple pounds of beans in 14 seconds. I really haven't seen a better cooling method, even in small commercial roasters. It also removes the chaff.
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dan
Really nice build, the milk can looks like a great roasting drum.
It's 90 RPM, which seems ok. At least it works ok. No tipping or burning. I'm going to drill a few 1/8" holes around the drum to let the beans dry better. I've been noticing with some beans, that when I put in my trier, it has condensation on it, so they are not drying as fast as I think they should, though what do I know? I've done over 150 roasts on it so far. They all seem to last between 14-16 minutes.
My SC/TO seems very humble compared to a lot of what I see going on in here. Gotta admit, I'm a little jealous.
My SC/TO seems very humble compared to a lot of what I see going on in here. Gotta admit, I'm a little jealous.
My SC/TO seems very humble compared to a lot of what I see going on in here. Gotta admit, I'm a little jealous.
I think Tex assumes you use the shop vac for other things....
Toilet overflow? I'm not sure what you mean. It sucks the chaff down and then after it's cooled I use the vacuum to suck the rest of the chaff from the bottom of the bucket. There's no way anything from the previous roast gets into the next roast.
Just received our new Diedrich IR5 on Friday morning. It's a beauty. Still have probably through the end of the month to get the install right in the midst of the Christmas crunch at the shop - we're building a platform out of some distressed sheet metal & i-beams, and are waiting for a local sheet metal place to finish building our duct work. While I can't wait to get roasting on it, I'm just telling folks that I'd rather have it done right than done fast. It also gives me some down time to learn the software on it, too. What's crazy is that I already have two local restaurants and a brewery committed to buying coffee from me! Definitely a humbling feeling.
If you're ever in my direction in central PA, you're invited to come play!
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That thing is sexy as hell. White looks a lot nicer than I would have thought.
That thing is sexy as hell. White looks a lot nicer than I would have thought.
Even though it'll probably be a pain to keep clean, I went with the white for two reasons:
1) I wanted a fairly neutral color, since the roasting room is heavy on brick & wood with a bright accent wall.
2) ever since I first saw Star Wars I've been smitten with storm troopers. They may be mindless, but something about that stark black & white screams pure class.
Just received our new Diedrich IR5 on Friday morning. It's a beauty. Still have probably through the end of the month to get the install right in the midst of the Christmas crunch at the shop - we're building a platform out of some distressed sheet metal & i-beams, and are waiting for a local sheet metal place to finish building our duct work. While I can't wait to get roasting on it, I'm just telling folks that I'd rather have it done right than done fast. It also gives me some down time to learn the software on it, too. What's crazy is that I already have two local restaurants and a brewery committed to buying coffee from me! Definitely a humbling feeling.
If you're ever in my direction in central PA, you're invited to come play!
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Nice Karlo!!!
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Where you at in central Pa.? I'm on the Ohio border near Pitt and always like a roadtrip.... Jim
Where you at in central Pa.? I'm on the Ohio border near Pitt and always like a roadtrip.... Jim
Bill, nice.
How much that bad boy weigh? How you dumping it?
The heat that gets retained in the drum must be tricky to profile -- would seem easy to run away?
B|Java
Bill
I like it. I can't even imagine how long it took to make that. I wonder if it will be close to a cast Iron drum...
looking forward to your roasting notes!
Don't drop it bro'!
Bill, nice.
How much that bad boy weigh? How you dumping it?
The heat that gets retained in the drum must be tricky to profile -- would seem easy to run away?
B|Java
couple pounds.. the shaft is setting loose so I can pick it up and dump it.. so far it seams the retained heat is not a scorching issue.. (as long as I keep cranking)Bill
I like it. I can't even imagine how long it took to make that. I wonder if it will be close to a cast Iron drum...
looking forward to your roasting notes!
maybe a day of actual labor over a few weeks of drying firing and etc.. I fired it only once.. since I was not glazing it I just put it in a high fire as green wareDon't drop it bro'!
but if I do I have an excuse to make the next one.. bigger, better, faster.. ~theme from bionic man show in background~
I know nothing about ceramics, but is there anything you can add to the clay to modify it so that is more resistant to impact and is less brittle? Something similar to the polypropelyne fibers they add to concrete? Short staple steel wool maybe?
I know nothing about ceramics, but is there anything you can add to the clay to modify it so that is more resistant to impact and is less brittle? Something similar to the polypropelyne fibers they add to concrete? Short staple steel wool maybe?
Or form it out of expanded steel and gunite it with concrete?
I know nothing about ceramics, but is there anything you can add to the clay to modify it so that is more resistant to impact and is less brittle? Something similar to the polypropelyne fibers they add to concrete? Short staple steel wool maybe?
Or form it out of expanded steel and gunite it with concrete?
I have heard of nothing like that.. there are some more durable ceramic bodies but most of them are formed dry or semi dry under extreme pressure then fired... (not easy for a small studio like ours) I think it is pretty durable as built.. I may try and make it thinner next time and if we try paper clay (organic material in the clay burns out leaving the clay lighter and pores) I may try one with that..
I don't think there is an advantage to the added cost.. its just cheaper for me since I am the manufacturer.. I want to try coffee grinds (like the paper clay) in the clay so when it burns out it will be pores enough to brew coffee
the shuttle heat shields are dry compressed then fired (I think) also they are made to insulate so the beans would be comfortably cool inside while you get hotter and hotter (under the collar) trying to raise the temperature of the outside
I threw it in two pieces..
1: the strait cylinder, to which I added the veins and a piece to hold the shaft
2: the top cap and vein pieces were added.. and all the holes punched in..
the shuttle heat shields are dry compressed then fired (I think) also they are made to insulate so the beans would be comfortably cool inside while you get hotter and hotter (under the collar) trying to raise the temperature of the outside
I threw it in two pieces..
1: the strait cylinder, to which I added the veins and a piece to hold the shaft
2: the top cap and vein pieces were added.. and all the holes punched in..
I was actually thinking of an internal heat source. Watlow has some interesting choices that would work, and with the insulating properties of the ceramic the profiles might be interesting?
Here's a couple shoddy photos I took with my phone...
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Here's a couple shoddy photos I took with my phone...
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Sweet roaster, but better pictures would be nice i drooled a bit ;D ok ok still drooling
I'll get some better pics soon, been busy, getting ready to move. Ahhh!
And to shakinjake, I can roast as little as 8oz if I'm very careful, but it is very hard to control the roast. I've done it before though. I regularly do 1lb batches.
I've even thought about selling my motorcycle to fund the purchase,
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as little I ride it anymore...but I can't seem to get enough courage to write the first draft for the sale ad...
Best,
Jake
Reddick Fla.
"Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it."
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