I don't know why I never thought of this before...
I really love the Melitta Perfect Brew single cup pourover. They allow me to try a bunch of different drip coffees in short order, they are really convenient, and the quality is great. If you asked me what the biggest problem is with them, I would say that they brew just a bit too fast. Well, I solved this problem, and just might have to get a bunch of these puppies fabricated. I took a very small neoprene rubber plug and threaded a piece of fishing line through it with a needle. I stuck the plug into the hole on the bottom of the filter holder, and voila! The water gets full contact with the coffee until I decide to 'pull the plug'. 90 seconds worked really great this morning on some Kenya Gethumbwini Peaberry. I noticed a lot more spice in the cup than I got without the additional extraction time. They sell these little plugs at the hardware store (I think it was a size 00000 neoprene stopper) but you could probably find a lot of similar items that would work for the same purpose. w00t!
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: John F on August 30, 2009, 07:39:29 PM
All I want to know is who measures their water by weight.
Is this a trick question?
Does it have something to do with sea level?
the density of water (or just about anything) fluctuates with temperature. Of course, with water that is probably not discernable with the amounts that are being used for brewing coffee...
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: cfsheridan on August 31, 2009, 10:09:36 AM
I don't know why I never thought of this before...
I really love the Melitta Perfect Brew single cup pourover. They allow me to try a bunch of different drip coffees in short order, they are really convenient, and the quality is great. If you asked me what the biggest problem is with them, I would say that they brew just a bit too fast. Well, I solved this problem, and just might have to get a bunch of these puppies fabricated. I took a very small neoprene rubber plug and threaded a piece of fishing line through it with a needle. I stuck the plug into the hole on the bottom of the filter holder, and voila! The water gets full contact with the coffee until I decide to 'pull the plug'. 90 seconds worked really great this morning on some Kenya Gethumbwini Peaberry. I noticed a lot more spice in the cup than I got without the additional extraction time. They sell these little plugs at the hardware store (I think it was a size 00000 neoprene stopper) but you could probably find a lot of similar items that would work for the same purpose. w00t!
So, BW, where does the fishing line go.....from the top of the plug between the inside of the brewer and the underside of the filter? or from the bottom of the plug under the brewer and over the lip of the cup?
Susan
It goes through the plug and the line ties around the handle on the side of the cone. The plug is inserted from the underside of the cone. I lift the filter holder up to pull the plug.
I don't use this system much anymore, because now I have a dual layer reusable filter that slows things down (probably too much) as it is. The first layer is the swiss-gold cone. The second layer is 9 micron (I think - I got as an unlabeled sample) poly filter that catches 90% of the sediment that the swiss-gold allows through. It usually takes 5 minutes to prepare my morning 1.4L batch...
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: Ascholten on August 31, 2009, 10:50:55 AM
This looks like you could almost just take the ground catcher from a mr coffee, put a filter in it and dump your hot water into it. Seriously it doesn't look much more like one of those store bought mesh coffee filters, with a paper filter inside it. and a stand to keep it up.
I wonder how it'd stand up to a swiss gold, although I am sure the paper filter would take out some of the oils of the brew.
Aaron
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: Joe on August 31, 2009, 03:58:45 PM
I use one of these brewers for making Tea. bonjour makes them and you would probably do better trying to get a discount from them.
Similar to this: http://www.bonjourproducts.com/53764.html
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: John F on August 31, 2009, 04:08:06 PM
It's a cool gizmo and if it will work for both that might be a good thing.
I've had it with loose teas in a really organic "granola" place where the tea had all sorts of flowers and stuff in it so there was an interesting visual aspect to it all floating and puffing up at different rates in the top vessel.
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: Joe on August 31, 2009, 05:03:27 PM
the sweet maria's version looks like it is the same thing minus the bottom filter so you can use a paper filter instead. I would suggest going into a tea shop they usually sell these and just taking the bottom filter out. I think I paid $10 or around there for mine and I didn't have to pay shipping.
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: peter on August 31, 2009, 07:49:36 PM
I've never used either the CCD or the Bonjour, but from what I read the screen in the Bonjour is a tad coarse for coffee, since it's designed for tea. Then I wonder if the shape of the Bonjour would be good for a paper filter.
I just ordered some CCD's from SM's, and when they get here I'll be pestering the rasqualator for a custom 5-micron poly-felt filter cone, you betcha I will.
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: bobvilax2000 on September 02, 2009, 05:14:40 AM
The mesh is really tight and though I've considered it for coffee, I've never bothered.
The CCD is pretty cool. Maybe find a swiss gold that would fit...
- -Barrett
yeah this is very similar to the bonjour, i would say exact except for the cone shape
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: peter on October 06, 2009, 02:27:19 PM
Just as a follow-up... I've been using the CCD for a month now, almost exclusively, whereas for the last 5 years it was the press pot.
I bought a case from SM's, which brings them down to around $7.00, shipped to Milw. they're about $8.00 each. I'm selling them to my bean customers, and any local members who may want one, but don't think a group buy will make sense once you add postage, etc.
On Sunday I brewed up a CCD and a french press of the same coffee at the same time, for some side-by-side slurping. The results were what I expected them to be. The press pot at first appeared to have more flavor. But upon closer examination I found that 'more flavor' to be attributable to the mechanics of press pot brewing. It was a fuller cup w/ more body, but that 'more flavor' and fullness veiled the cup flavors somewhat. The cup from the CCD had flavors that were more approachable and a tad easier to pick out.
The two cups were close enough that I wouldn't call one better, but they were discernibly different. I like the clean up of the CCD much more, but that's only because I can't pour my grounds down the drain in this old house.
p.
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: ButtWhiskers on October 06, 2009, 02:54:44 PM
The press pot at first appeared to have more flavor. But upon closer examination I found that 'more flavor' to be attributable to the mechanics of press pot brewing. It was a fuller cup w/ more body, but that 'more flavor' and fullness veiled the cup flavors somewhat. The cup from the CCD had flavors that were more approachable and a tad easier to pick out.
That's a darn good description of the difference of a well-extracted pourover vs. a press pot. You get more suspended solids with a press pot, and most of them are not visible. It gives the brew a heavier mouthfeel, but seems to desensitize the taste buds of certain flavors. When cupping by the classic method- 'whooshing', slurping, and spitting with a great deal of nebulization and air flow - those suspended solids don't get to 'settle' on taste centers and detract from the experience. But if you are just plain drinking pressed, or non-filtered (as with classic cupping) brew, that is one of the drawbacks. You will get more oil, and more body, but many of the subtle cup flavors can get buried unless you chew and aspirate a little.
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: John F on October 06, 2009, 03:45:14 PM
I guess I'm saying any paper filtered cup will be cleaner than a FP...that bit is expected.
You should test the Clever against a standard cone to see the opposite if what you tested (the depth of the Clever cup vs. standard) the way I'm looking at it anyway.
;)
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: peter on October 06, 2009, 08:19:45 PM
I guess I'm saying any paper filtered cup will be cleaner than a FP...that bit is expected.
You should test the Clever against a standard cone to see the opposite if what you tested (the depth of the Clever cup vs. standard) the way I'm looking at it anyway.
;)
I'll have to see if B|CoffeeToys will lend me his Hario ceramic.
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: BoldJava on October 07, 2009, 04:50:06 AM
I will bring the strayclay ceramic pour-overs and chemex filters (just to muddy the data pool)
To save you the trouble of bringing the Chemex filters, I'd be glad to make some 'cut and glue' filters from some paper grocery bags. They'd have to be better than Chemex. :-X
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: headchange4u on November 16, 2009, 12:34:41 PM
I couldn't resist any longer. I had to order my own CCD. In transit via Priority Mail. I have been assimilated.
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: peter on November 16, 2009, 12:52:00 PM
I couldn't resist any longer. I had to order my own CCD. In transit via Priority Mail. I have been assimilated.
I am profoundly saddened by the news that my-main-man-Hario-go-to-homeboy would stoop to buying a CCD. <grins>.
I have to reprocess my mental model. You already have the best of all toys...
B|Java
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: headchange4u on November 19, 2009, 02:01:07 PM
My wife brought in a package from Sweet Maria's last night....at 10:15 p.m. The following conversation ensued:
My wife: "You got this in the mail today."
Me: "Why didn't you give it to me when I got home [at 5:30]."
MW: "I was in the garage when it came. I left it in there and just forgot about it"
Me: "Dang. It's to late to experiment with it now. I wish you had told me it was here."
MW: "I did tell you it was here, just now."
Sheesh. ::)
Anyway, I've had the chance to use it twice and I must say the jury is still out on this brewing device.
My first test was my morning cup. ~25 grams of coffee and a 4 minute steep time. Using the standard pour over grind the coffee came out bitter and over extracted. I think my water may have been to hot. I didn't measure the temp, so I'm just guessing.
Test 2 was my afternoon cup. Used a coarse Press Pot grind and 4 minute steep time. Again, not impressed with the results. The brew seem like it was a bit bland and under extracted to me.
I'm going to bust out the digital scales and sit down and tinker with the variables tonight to see if I can improve things. I also need to look back over this thread and info that Sweet Maria's has put together on this brewer and see if that helps.
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: peter on November 19, 2009, 03:14:24 PM
Not sayin' this is the technique, just what I've settled on;
Filter is rinsed w/ hot water, heating the CCD.
Add coffee, 22g:14oz water. Add a third of the water, boiling but not rolling, cover. Start timer, set at 3min. At around 2:30, add the remaining water, reheated to boiling. Keep covered, even during the dripping.
Have noticed no bitterness, nothing but goodness. Not better than a Hario of course, unless the Hario is B|Java's, then it's waaaaay better.
This Friday, me and the better half of the Cabal, are doing a side-by-side comparo of the CCD and a press pot w/ my PNG, just for the fun of it. That would be Jeffo, don'tcha know.
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: headchange4u on November 20, 2009, 08:48:57 AM
peter,
I followed your instructions and was very surprised by the results. To tell the truth I was a little apprehensive about using 'boiling but not rolling' water. But the result was excellent and much more in line with what I was expecting from this brewer; french press taste and body without the fines.
I also think the little valve at the bottom is the coolest thing since peanut butter. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: peter on November 20, 2009, 09:00:49 AM
I followed your instructions and was very surprised by the results. To tell the truth I was a little apprehensive about using 'boiling but not rolling' water. But the result was excellent and much more in line with what I was expecting from this brewer; french press taste and body without the fines.
I also think the little valve at the bottom is the coolest thing since peanut butter. ;) ;D
It's a keeper in my books. Ceramic obviously trumps plastic, but this plastic is clear and strong, and close to looking like glass.
The valve thingie is cool, for sure. After a couple weeks of use, I found that I had to press it down into place just a little, to keep the preheat/filter-washing water from seeping through.
I've been selling them to my coffee customers, and they've been very happy with it too, which benefits me two-fold; they like that I find them cool coffee gadgets, and of course, it encourages them to drink moar coffee. 8)
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: headchange4u on November 20, 2009, 12:38:12 PM
peter, et al
Is there a way to remove the valve mechanism from the bottom for cleaning the brewer? There might have been something about that in the instructions but they are gone now. :-\
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: peter on November 20, 2009, 03:39:27 PM
I can look through an unopened box for the instructions, but I'm pretty sure that part is only cleaned by cleaning and not by disassembling it.
edit; cleaned by rinsing. Even I'm not immune... wait, I better go back and check my spellinng.
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: Jeffo on November 20, 2009, 04:19:25 PM
If it can be cleaned by cleaning then I would just clean it.
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: J.Jirehs Roaster on November 20, 2009, 04:24:13 PM
I just run water through mine... immediately after use... I think a shot of soap and a soak would do the trick now and again for oil build up...
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: BoldJava on November 20, 2009, 05:15:29 PM
I just run water through mine... immediately after use... I think a shot of soap and a soak would do the trick now and again for oil build up...
Same with the Hario ceramic V60. Just run water through it. Oh wait, no valve mechanism to clean on the Hario. My bad.
B|Java
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripperi
Post by: headchange4u on November 20, 2009, 08:35:47 PM
I also just rinse of my brewers 8 out of 10 times, but sometimes I just feel the need to hit things with soap and water or a citric acid mixture. The CCD just seems like it could have some hard to reach spots. But I guess it's nothing a soak in hot water and a sprayer won't fix.
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripperi
Post by: J.Jirehs Roaster on November 20, 2009, 08:51:32 PM
I also just rinse of my brewers 8 out of 10 times, but sometimes I just feel the need to hit things with soap and water or a citric acid mixture. The CCD just seems like it could have some hard to reach spots. But I guess it's nothing a soak in hot water and a sprayer won't fix.
I suppose something will collect the uncleanable.... then I will call peter and get another one :D
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripperi
Post by: peter on November 20, 2009, 08:53:19 PM
I also just rinse of my brewers 8 out of 10 times, but sometimes I just feel the need to hit things with soap and water or a citric acid mixture. The CCD just seems like it could have some hard to reach spots. But I guess it's nothing a soak in hot water and a sprayer won't fix.
I suppose something will collect the uncleanable.... then I will call peter and get another one :D
We take trade-ins. Cash For Clunky Clevers. ;D
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: thejavaman on August 13, 2010, 05:03:57 PM
I finally bought a CCD. Any pointers for me?
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: headchange4u on August 13, 2010, 05:46:30 PM
Coarse grind, a 30-45 second preinfusion, fill, stir, cover to retain heat, and a 2:30 steep time.
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: gratefulroast on August 13, 2010, 05:57:03 PM
Grind between FP and Drip.
Fill and Stir down bloom.
Cover
Stir at 2 mins.
Cover
3:30-4:00, place on cup and drain.
Enjoy.
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: Jeffo on August 13, 2010, 08:26:57 PM
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: thejavaman on August 14, 2010, 05:32:16 AM
Thanks for the help guys. I tried it out this morning using the above techniques and I am pleasantly surprised with the cup. This sucker just might start prying it's way into my espresso & inverted poly AP filled repertoire....
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: J.Jirehs Roaster on August 14, 2010, 05:59:10 AM
Thanks for the help guys. I tried it out this morning using the above techniques and I am pleasantly surprised with the cup. This sucker just might start prying it's way into my espresso & inverted poly AP filled repertoire....
I just picked up a stainless and a gasketless cory vac pots... but the dripper is my early morning goto for getting good coffee and getting out the door.. (just need a #6 filter version so I can brew both cups at once)
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: headchange4u on August 16, 2010, 07:23:50 PM
Interesting video over at homeroasters.org:
Clever Coffee Dripper; Techniques and a Twist (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_-wyjaCPj8#ws)
The grind seems much finer than I am using, although it's kinda hard to see in the video. I can by how slowly the CCD is draining that the grind is pretty fine. I always found excessive bitterness with finer grinds.Maybe I didn't go fine enough.
The concept of diluting a stronger brew with water to change the flavor is something I want to experiment with.
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: Jeffo on August 16, 2010, 07:42:44 PM
The concept of diluting a stronger brew with water to change the flavor is something I want to experiment with.
I've tried this and it just doesn't work for me whether it's brewed coffee or americanos or moka pot coffee.
What about Aeropress Americanos? Ever tried those. I think they are pretty tasty myself. Like you, I've never been that fond of actual espresso Americanos
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: Jeffo on August 17, 2010, 09:03:51 AM
The concept of diluting a stronger brew with water to change the flavor is something I want to experiment with.
I've tried this and it just doesn't work for me whether it's brewed coffee or americanos or moka pot coffee.
What about Aeropress Americanos? Ever tried those. I think they are pretty tasty myself. Like you, I've never been that fond of actual espresso Americanos
I've never acquired an Aeropress. Peter has one but I don't think I've ever tried one there.
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: Stubbie on August 29, 2010, 07:28:30 AM
What about Aeropress Americanos? Ever tried those. I think they are pretty tasty myself. Like you, I've never been that fond of actual espresso Americanos
My wifes favorite prep method - she loves using the Aeropress and it really makes my coffee sing.
-Stubbie
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: thejavaman on August 29, 2010, 08:37:57 AM
After playing with the CCD for a week or so, I gotta say that it makes a pretty good cup. I like how you can control all the variables and basically tailor a cup to your specific tastes. The AP still has a leg up on it in my book though...
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: blzrfn on August 31, 2010, 11:31:11 AM
Just got back from a week and a half of camping using the Hario Skerton grinder and CCD. I think next time I will take the Aeropress only because it cuts down on the brew time. Making coffee for 4 people is a lot of work, but all were very happy having premium coffee compared to the swill labeled coffee sold at the Yellowstone general stores. :-X
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: Ron_L on December 19, 2010, 07:51:41 AM
Well, I'm late to the party on this one (as usual :)). I broke down and ordered a CCD a couple of days ago and it arrived yesterday. I'm playing with it this morning and I'm enjoying the results so far. My first attempt was "by the book" or box :) with 22 grams of coffee and 12 oz of water and a 4 minute brew time. The cup was very good, but maybe a tad over-extracted. I didn't change my grinder setting and I'd rather not mess with it, so I'm going to play with the amount of coffee and extraction time for the next cup. I need to get my butt outside and do some roasting for Christmas presents, so an extra cup will help me get motivated ;D
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: J.Jirehs Roaster on December 19, 2010, 12:32:48 PM
Well, I'm late to the party on this one (as usual :)). I broke down and ordered a CCD a couple of days ago and it arrived yesterday. I'm playing with it this morning and I'm enjoying the results so far. My first attempt was "by the book" or box :) with 22 grams of coffee and 12 oz of water and a 4 minute brew time. The cup was very good, but maybe a tad over-extracted. I didn't change my grinder setting and I'd rather not mess with it, so I'm going to play with the amount of coffee and extraction time for the next cup. I need to get my butt outside and do some roasting for Christmas presents, so an extra cup will help me get motivated ;D
FWIW I have settled on about 2.5 minutes grind is same as my pour over usualy
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: Ron_L on December 19, 2010, 12:55:31 PM
How much coffee and water?
For my second try today I used the same amount of coffee (22 grams) and increased the water to 14oz (someone in this thread mentioned this combo so I thought I would try it and the brew time as 3 minutes. The coffee was good, but i learned something important. Make sure that your cup can hold the amount of coffee that you are making ::) I know know that my Intelligentsia mug holds 12 ounces, and using 14 oz. of water makes a little more than 12 oz of coffee. ;D
I think I'll try 18 grams and 12 oz and 3 minutes tomorrow.
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: peter on December 19, 2010, 01:27:21 PM
You had my exact recipe there, Ron. 22g coffee, 14oz. water, 3min.
Thanks for clarifying why I always get an ounce or two of coffee on my counter top! ;D
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: BoldJava on December 19, 2010, 01:33:18 PM
You had my exact recipe there, Ron. 22g coffee, 14oz. water, 3min.
Thanks for clarifying why I always get an ounce or two of coffee on my counter top! ;D
I guess I need a slightly bigger mug!
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: J.Jirehs Roaster on December 19, 2010, 05:40:53 PM
my pre-coffee morning routine is two coffee scoops of beans to enough water to not overflow the #4 filter in the CCD.. my mug sizes are all over the map but my favorites are big enough.. actually I cheat if my wife wants coffee, I use three scoops.. run the first brew in my mug then use the CCD as a pour over for her 1/2 cup..
~ please don't delete my account :P
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: GC7 on December 20, 2010, 12:47:26 PM
The CCD has been my go to single cup brew method for a while. My method, based on Tom's video at SM, is similar to what has been described.
1- I measure out 22 gm of beans on my digital scale and grind a bit coarser than I do for "normal" pour over drip coffee preparations
2- I have a Pino kettle sitting with water at 205*. I determined that 12 oz./355 ml. of water fills the CCD up to the top of the vertical stripes/bars on the CCD so I pour most of that in, start the timer set on 3 minutes, and stir well with a spoon to immerse all the grinds. I then carefully pour along the sides to the top of the bars and cover the CCD with a plate.
3- When the 3 minutes are up I put the CCD on top of my preheated mug and let it drain.
This has worked well for my tastes.
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: BoldJava on December 20, 2010, 12:51:56 PM
... actually I cheat if my wife wants coffee, I use three scoops.. run the first brew in my mug then use the CCD as a pour over for her 1/2 cup..
~ please don't delete my account :P
Double dipping.
I don't think your account should be deleted. I think you should just be placed in time out, or maybe hot topics only, for a very long period of time. Recant you lout! From this side of the 42* 30' border, I will sell you an indulgence to keep you from being banished to just hot topics.
B|Java
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: Ron_L on December 20, 2010, 04:06:47 PM
The coffee was good, but i learned something important. Make sure that your cup can hold the amount of coffee that you are making ::) I know know that my Intelligentsia mug holds 12 ounces, and using 14 oz. of water makes a little more than 12 oz of coffee. ;D
I think i figured out something this morning... When i went to make my morning cup I set the CCD on top of my mug and then ran some hot water through to rinse the filter and preheat things. Then I move the CCD to the coaster and went through my brewing process. Once the three minutes was up I went to move it to the mug and realized that i hadn't dumped the water out of the mug from the rinse/heating ::) Maybe that's why my previous attempt overflowed my mug... I guess i should be allowed to operate this thing until I've had some caffeine ;D
BTW, my wife informed me that I had to put the CCD back in the box until Christmas. Can you spell G-R-I-N-C-H? :D
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: peter on December 20, 2010, 04:09:46 PM
BTW, my wife informed me that I had to put the CCD back in the box until Christmas. Can you spell G-R-I-N-C-H? :D
We can fix her wagon; I'll send you an extra CCD as a loaner... ;D
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: J.Jirehs Roaster on December 20, 2010, 07:09:25 PM
only hot topics?!?!?! that's not very bad lately... I don't need an indulgence.. just have to stand on my head in the corner, spit quarters and say The Lord's Prayer 10 times..
I do pre wet the filter (with the first cup of coffee) for the co-raining mid-west champin cuppers's half cup
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: headchange4u on August 16, 2011, 06:48:40 PM
Oolala. A new Clever Coffee Dripper on the horizon? What's that I spy in Tom's new video, hidden among all that oh-so-useful information concerning cleaning the CCD?
Black. Nice.
Cleaning the Clever Coffee Dripper (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV3f0cckqds#ws)
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: FinerGrind on August 18, 2011, 06:36:15 AM
I bought one of these at the SCAA show this year - paid too much for it! ($30) But I wanted to experiment. It's the perfect combo with the Hario Mini-mill in that both fit well into a laptop bag. I like that it is heavier plastic than the conventional CCD which seems brittle to me. I've not tried to break a Clever, but the black plastic seems bulletproof and might hold up better in a dish washer - again, I hand wash them so I haven't taken the smaller CCD through any paces.
I will carry these one they are available here in the U.S. and perhaps combo-kit the Hario Mini-mill and sell it for one price.
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: Richdel on August 18, 2011, 11:03:06 AM
I have noticed some crazing in the clear plastic of at least one of my CCDs, but so far no failures. I no longer run them through the dishwasher.
BTW (just watched the vid) OxyClean works great for these things. Besides having three CCDs, I have two ABID tea makers and the tea really stains up the valves. OxyClean powers out the coffee and tea stains from these devices and the ceramic burrs on my hand grinders. The largest tea maker I have is the perfect size to make a pitcher of iced tea in winter when I'm not making sun tea.
Sorry for the OT question, but, can you tell me what the ratio of OxyClean to water that you use to clean the ceramic burrs of your hand grinder. I have a Kyocera CM45, and the burrs could stand a bit of "whitening".
Thanks!
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: she_wolf_ak on September 01, 2011, 04:40:45 PM
8) I love mine use it every morning
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: bucksmoney on October 29, 2011, 08:58:51 AM
just ordered one and waiting for it to be delivered. can't wait to try it
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: peter on October 29, 2011, 09:38:32 AM
We had a similar kaffelogie filter for pourover on trial during the 7-way pourover throwdown at B|Java's. The kaffelogie fell mid-pack, and was hard to clean.
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: RobertL on October 29, 2011, 11:20:25 AM
Double layered mesh, yeah I imagine that could be hard to clean. I thought about trying one but the $30 price tag was to steep for me.
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: blzrfn on October 29, 2011, 01:20:11 PM
The clever really is susceptible to paper filter flavor contamination. I found the Melitta whites are the best that I have tried. I would like to try their bamboo filters soon and the hemp filters from SM.
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: RobertL on October 29, 2011, 01:55:41 PM
Have you tried the Filtropa filters like SM's sells?
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: moglman on October 29, 2011, 02:40:06 PM
I use both the Filtropa White #4 and Bonmac #4 Hemp filters. I like them both. I don't notice any paper taste, and seem to let some oils through, though not like a mesh filter.
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: peter on October 29, 2011, 03:56:14 PM
The Filtropa whites are what I use too, when I use them. They just have to be rinsed w/ hot water first.
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: blzrfn on October 29, 2011, 05:59:49 PM
The Filtropa don't have much off-flavor to them, but it is more than the Melitta oxygen bleached white filters according to my non-scientific testing. You can actually smell the difference when you get them wet. :o
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: bucksmoney on October 30, 2011, 01:47:52 AM
what about the generic gold filter roastmasters is selling? IIRC i read somewhere Tom said it taste better than the swissfgold, but i dunno if he is referring to the same filter.
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: bucksmoney on November 04, 2011, 10:31:54 AM
using the CCD now with the filtropia. I like it better than my frenchpress
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: BoldJava on August 25, 2012, 05:33:55 AM
If you want this without the SM's logo, Orphan is now stocking it.
Title: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: PozzSka on August 27, 2012, 08:34:04 PM
I'm going to try mine with a cotton filter in the morning as well. Don't know why I haven't yet. I've used a cotton filter with my V60 many times.
Title: Re: Clever Coffee Dripper
Post by: rasqual on October 04, 2012, 10:30:46 PM
OK, I just did my first cup in one of these.
I did not know (if I'd read this thread, would I have?) that the flow was so fast once you released it.
It stands to reason, though -- there's no duration of flow (as with the two or three pours in a regular dripper) for fines to clog the filter and slow things down.
I'm half wondering if we should use these at the market, instead of the Harios. Will experiment this weekend and see what customers think.
I wonder if I could step up the pace with a finder grind and still get a fast flow at drop time?