this deserves its own thread.
we can compile a list of GCBC approved roasters. I'll maintain the list counting on my fellow GCBC'ers to put their comments in this thread.
GCBC approved
Technivorm CP
Newco OCS NP
Presto scandinavian NP
Have at it folks.
Don't get mad....
;D
Don't get mad....
;D
I am not sure if I should include French Press. It does take a certain amount of skill to keep the temp right.
Any of them do - how do we know JohnF's water is really at 196?F when he pours into the Melitta funnel?
Oh yeah, for you that's a compliment.
Cuisinart DCC-1200 ([url]http://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-DCC-1200-Central-Coffeemaker-Stainless/dp/B00005IBX9[/url])
Cuisinart DCC-1200This is exactly the kind of information I'm looking for! Adding 'brew time' for 10 and 12 cup pots would also be very very beneficial.
so I measure it today.
so based on a 12 cup pot
1st 2 cups 180 - 186
2nd 2 cups 186 - 193
3rd 2 cups 193 - 196
4th 2 cups 193 - 196
5th 2 cups 194 - 198
6th 2 cups 195 - 201
HERE'S A LINK ([url]http://www.consumersearch.com/coffee-maker-reviews[/url]) to a few coffee makers that supposedly brew in the optimal temperature range and a description of each of them. I have a Braun AromaDeluxe KF510 ([url]http://www.consumersearch.com/coffee-maker-reviews/braun-aromadeluxe-kf510[/url]) at work and while I don't think it quite reaches the optimal temperature range (I've never measured it), it does produce a good, hot cup of coffee without breaking the bank.
The Cuisinart Brew Central DCC-1200................is one of the small number of home machines that can brew at the optimal temperature of 200 degrees Fahrenheit.
....The tricky part to measuring the water temperature is that in this type of machine the water comes out in spurts... so when the water is not spurting the temperature measurement is of the ambient temperature where it's being measured....
The Capresso MT 500, $ 175-185.Do you know what the brew time is?
Do you know what the brew time is?
Can we add that parameter to the discussion?
From a 'spec' standpoint, I think it's important to have a brewer that consistently produces water temps between 195 and 205, has a brew time of 4 to 6 minutes for 10 cups, and a 'half pot' setting that allows for longer extraction times when the water volume is less than a full pot.
Finding something like that for less than $200 is a bonus!
Do you know what the brew time is?
Can we add that parameter to the discussion?
HERE'S A LINK ([url]http://www.consumersearch.com/coffee-maker-reviews[/url]) to a few coffee makers that supposedly brew in the optimal temperature range and a description of each of them. I have a Braun AromaDeluxe KF510 ([url]http://www.consumersearch.com/coffee-maker-reviews/braun-aromadeluxe-kf510[/url]) at work and while I don't think it quite reaches the optimal temperature range (I've never measured it), it does produce a good, hot cup of coffee without breaking the bank.
I agree 110%! All brewers should be built to work at 7 AM - maybe 8:30 on Saturdays?
...I see that not all the coffee makers listed in that link make it to 195?...
...I don't think it quite reaches the optimal temperature range...
- Cuisinart Brew Central DCC-1200 does not make it to 195? ($80)
Cuisinart Brew Central DCC-1200....................which makes exceptional coffee and is one of the small number of home machines that can brew at the optimal temperature of 200 degrees Fahrenheit. The OCS-8 has a thermal carafe, which does a great job of preserving the temperature and flavor of brewed coffee
The price is right (~$80), but it's got one flaw that would take it off my short-list of acceptable brewers - no thermal carafe. I don't like hot plates to keep coffee at serving temps; to my mind they keep cooking coffee! I could use a separate thermal carafe, but it seems a lot simpler to buy a coffee maker with one.Cuisinart Brew Central DCC-1200
- Cuisinart Brew Central DCC-1200 does not make it to 195? ($80)
Where do you read that in the article? I think it says it can brew in the sweet spot... and my test data shows it can... once warmed up.QuoteCuisinart Brew Central DCC-1200....................which makes exceptional coffee and is one of the small number of home machines that can brew at the optimal temperature of 200 degrees Fahrenheit. The OCS-8 has a thermal carafe, which does a great job of preserving the temperature and flavor of brewed coffee
I'm not saying this is the best coffee maker out there, but certainly a good value if you don't mind running a pot of water through the machine when you first fire it up in the morning.... I will post plotted temp. data for 3 pots early next week using a thermocouple and the milowidget.
The price is right (~$80), but it's got one flaw that would take it off my short-list of acceptable brewers - no thermal carafe. I don't like hot plates to keep coffee at serving temps; to my mind they keep cooking coffee! I could use a separate thermal carafe, but it seems a lot simpler to buy a coffee maker with one.Cuisinart Brew Central DCC-1200
They do make a thermal carafe version ([url]http://www.ikitchen.com/cubrceth12co.html?CS_003=740477&CS_010=cubrceth12co[/url]).... $70... although I have not tested the temperature of this one.... 8)
They do make a thermal carafe version ([url]http://www.ikitchen.com/cubrceth12co.html?CS_003=740477&CS_010=cubrceth12co[/url]).... $70... although I have not tested the temperature of this one.... 8)
How about preheating the water to 204, swinging the basket door open, pouring the water over the grounds and letting it fall directly into a thermal carafe?
Hahahaha! ;D ;D
- Cuisinart Brew Central DCC-1200 does not make it to 195? ($80)
Where do you read that in the article? I think it says it can brew in the sweet spot... and my test data shows it can... once warmed up.QuoteCuisinart Brew Central DCC-1200....................which makes exceptional coffee and is one of the small number of home machines that can brew at the optimal temperature of 200 degrees Fahrenheit. The OCS-8 has a thermal carafe, which does a great job of preserving the temperature and flavor of brewed coffee
I'm not saying this is the best coffee maker out there, but certainly a good value if you don't mind running a pot of water through the machine when you first fire it up in the morning.... I will post plotted temp. data for 3 pots early next week using a thermocouple and the milowidget.
Milo ... I did not find anywhere where it said it can't ... however I did not find anywhere where it said it could. I check the expanded ([url]http://www.consumersearch.com/coffee-maker-reviews/cuisinart-brew-central-dcc-1200[/url]) article, then I checked the Cusinart ([url]http://www.cuisinart.com/catalog/product.php?product_id=10&item_id=25&cat_id=3[/url]) site and finally I checked the owner's manual ([url]http://www.cuisinart.com/share/man/25_man.pdf[/url]) and found no mention of the brew temperature. Now granted you could run a pot of hot water through the coffee maker and heat up the machine it may be capable but if we are talking a machine that would upon power up reach the sweet spot heating up cold water then this one falls short. Unless I goofed and failed to dig up some information that clearly says it does reach the sweet spot.
Milo ... do you have this model? Even if you don't ... I would be very interested in your data that you post.
:)
Well ... if it all gets down for stretching you buck as far as it can be stretched then why not buy the Braun AromaDeluxe KF510 ([url]http://www.consumersearch.com/coffee-maker-reviews/braun-aromadeluxe-kf510[/url]) and use the Milo or Tex help technique. For a bit of effort you can spend $40.00 and stretch it to perform like $140.00 OCS.
Not a bad trade off in my books.
If that's the case, it has to be a "pour water in, put coffee in the basket, turn it on" kind of proposal. Most people have not reached our level of geekiness, and most will not run a pot of water through first, use the machine as a glorified pour-over.
This not directed only at mp, but part of the thinking behind starting this thread was with the end user in mind, that being customers who ask what we recommend. If that's the case, it has to be a "pour water in, put coffee in the basket, turn it on" kind of proposal. Most people have not reached our level of geekiness, and most will not run a pot of water through first, use the machine as a glorified pour-over.
This not directed only at mp, but part of the thinking behind starting this thread was with the end user in mind, that being customers who ask what we recommend. If that's the case, it has to be a "pour water in, put coffee in the basket, turn it on" kind of proposal. Most people have not reached our level of geekiness, and most will not run a pot of water through first, use the machine as a glorified pour-over.
I believe you're discounting the potential for geekiness of anyone who'd roast their own beans! I mean; I'm a bit slow, but I can pour coffee into a cone & chew gum at the same time. 8)
BTW: Anyone who'd think a Technivorm looks cool is by definition true geek material!
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.........finding the best drib brewer for the average coffee drinker,
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.........finding the best drib brewer for the average coffee drinker,
Sir Peter
Is a "drib" brewer another brand name I've not heard of? ;D
BTW - Didn't the Clarity earn SCAA certs before it was dropped from Melitta's lineup?
Laugh at me all you want :laughing4: because I've been known to do that with my Melitta Clarity after I lost my one-cup cone. It's just a cone coffee maker with it's own heat source.
Thank you for your inquiry.
For the EC-BD15 Thermal carafe coffee maker, the coffee brews at 205 F and
stays between 185 F - 194 F inside the carafe. After 10 hours the
temperature drops to 144F. When brewing a full 10 cups of coffee inside our
coffee maker, it takes about 7-9 minutes. I hope this information helps. If
you need further assistance, feel free to contact me.
Sincerely,
Mai Tran
Customer Service
Ideally brewing temp should be 195F to 205F and the total brewing time
should be under 6-7 minutes. What is the performance of your brewer?
Those who had trouble posting on this thread, I am sorry. Somehow it got locked (before peter could twist the knife). It should be better now.
BTW, I'm really not sorry peter couldn't post. I have to be honest.
Those who had trouble posting on this thread, I am sorry. Somehow it got locked (before peter could twist the knife). It should be better now.
BTW, I'm really not sorry peter couldn't post. I have to be honest.
I still can't post! What is going on here!?!
The Zojirushi is now on Newegg for $69.99 shipped with a free stovetop Espresso maker...
kp
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If you read the manual, the Bunn holds water at 200 F and finishes the brew in 3 min. For use with fine grind or fresh roasted coffee they recommend a flow restricting spray head which you can get just by contacting the company. I suspect that will lengthen the brew time slightly.
[url]http://www.bunnomatic.com/pdfs/retail/usecare/38865.0000_NHBX_U_C_English.pdf[/url]
Since they claim a temp of 200F it should be verifiable for you that have the unit.
www.cafejo.com
I wrote to Cafejo and asked about the SCAA certification and how long it took a pot to brew and received the following reply...
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I did see that all three of the pourovers are available for $299 each at dccoffeeproducts.com, so there must be some room for discounts.
kp
Do these qualify for stim$'s?
Get the Cafejo TE-116 for free! (requires a small $455.00 purchase)
[url]http://www.limboland.net/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=Special-TE116&Category_Code=&Store_Code=CJ[/url]
...crazy, just crazy!
Get the Cafejo TE-116 for free! (requires a small $455.00 purchase)
[url]http://www.limboland.net/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=Special-TE116&Category_Code=&Store_Code=CJ[/url]
...crazy, just crazy!
Get the Cafejo TE-116 for free! (requires a small $455.00 purchase)
[url]http://www.limboland.net/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=Special-TE116&Category_Code=&Store_Code=CJ[/url]
...crazy, just crazy!
no problem... just have to find somebody(s) that are willing to pay $2.25 a pot for 216 pots of Adrenaline Explosion
Get the Cafejo TE-116 for free! (requires a small $455.00 purchase)
[url]http://www.limboland.net/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=Special-TE116&Category_Code=&Store_Code=CJ[/url]
...crazy, just crazy!
no problem... just have to find somebody(s) that are willing to pay $2.25 a pot for 216 pots of Adrenaline Explosion
Hmmm!
That's exactly what the local convenience store wanted me to roast up for them.
I felt so dirty roasting robusta for human consumption. ([url]http://fc67.deviantart.com/fs13/f/2007/074/2/2/_My_Dirt__by_sourcow.gif[/url])
I felt so dirty roasting robusta for human consumption. ([url]http://fc67.deviantart.com/fs13/f/2007/074/2/2/_My_Dirt__by_sourcow.gif[/url])
I modified the original post. If you disagree, by all means take me to task.Py
Hey GI Joe you gotta read this article in depth. This may justify Newco's $140 cost for their unit.
I did, and I'm still not impressed, I got mine for $69 with an $11 airpot and something else and $11 shipping now that's impressive. The question you have to ask yourself is what is it worth to you. If you are comfortable paying $140 for a drip coffee maker then go for it. For me personally at that price point I would invest in some caffiza and a little time on Craigslist for a slightly used pourover Airpot brewer.
Joe
I did, and I'm still not impressed, I got mine for $69 with an $11 airpot and something else and $11 shipping now that's impressive. The question you have to ask yourself is what is it worth to you. If you are comfortable paying $140 for a drip coffee maker then go for it. For me personally at that price point I would invest in some caffiza and a little time on Craigslist for a slightly used pourover Airpot brewer.
Joe
OK Joe, But it's not clear to me which is more important to you - price or quality of what's in the cup? For you it seems there's a point at which the quality can be sacrificed. Is that @ $90, $100, $120, or ??
If your Newco was worth ~$90 why isn't it worth ~$150? You could have bought a lot of used pour over airpots for what you paid for the OCS-8, right? Are you objecting to the price increase? It sounds like you really don't think the original $90 was money well spent.
...
It worked great and I paid $79 for it new. The trap I see people doing mental gymnastics about is whether or not their brewer is brewing at optimal temperature and time. They are relying on review websites that are getting their information from several sources and usually aren't 1st hand info. So was the Newco a better coffee maker for me at $80? Well it was $2 more than my Starbies and it didn't have an automatic function, however it had more screen holes better commercial grade components....so yeah I think it was worth it. Is it worth a jump of $40 more for the benefits? Nah...I would buy that Starbies machine off eBay and save a bundle.
Sorta like my $39 Melitta Clarity that I'll use now & then for a cup or two. I've measured the temps it puts out and I know it produces fantastic coffee.
But IF it does what folks say it does, then it's a better priced machine than a lot of machines that don't make good coffee.
Exactly. So can you justify to yourself spending 4-5 times the amount for the same result or similar?
It does do what everyone says it does, just as the Technivorm, I would never consider buying a technivorm personally. I guess making good coffee is subjective. I mean me and you could get into some knock out flame wars about what we think is the best way or even acceptable way to home roast coffee. So I don't want to open the door to what is "good" coffee.
Personally for myself I enjoy as John and BW and several others the control and super cheapness that a manual pour over brewer allows.
Has anyone tested the brew temp on a Krups Moka Brew?
I'm not sure I can see how I would do it (as in where I could get a thermocouple wire), but I will see if I can figure it out if no one has done it yet.
Susan
Personally for myself I enjoy as John and BW and several others the control and super cheapness that a manual pour over brewer allows.
Yep.
You control the water temp, dispersion, flow rate...it's simple design, ease of use, and price point make it a serious tool in my arsenal for sure.
#2 into my mug every day at 7am.
#4 into a SS carafe for 2 mugs when the wife or Bro in law wants a cup.
#6 into an airpot for larger parties (but we normally use the Cuisinart due to location) however we will be running a blank pot first tanks to the recent Milo funded research. 8)
Ah, well I was a moderator there briefly myself (until I decided I didn't like not being able to speak my own mind), and still check in to see what's going on and if anyone needs any particular help with their Gaggias.
Has anyone tested the brew temp on a Krups Moka Brew?
I'm not sure I can see how I would do it (as in where I could get a thermocouple wire), but I will see if I can figure it out if no one has done it yet.
Susan
I may put my KMB up for sale in the Buy/Sell/Trade Forum shortly, not because I don't like it, but because I never use it....
I may put my KMB up for sale in the Buy/Sell/Trade Forum shortly, not because I don't like it, but because I never use it....
Calling dibs if I can swing the price! :) I've been interested in these things ever since B|Java got one...
-Stubs
I wouldn't recommend it! Why would Krups, or anyone, make a machine with a glass carafe? Thermal carafes are so much more functional, practically never break, and don't require warming heaters.
Ah, well I was a moderator there briefly myself (until I decided I didn't like not being able to speak my own mind), and still check in to see what's going on and if anyone needs any particular help with their Gaggias.
Off topic: Did you have a run in with the Prince of coffee? ::) ;) If so then you aren't alone. Welcome to our club where you can definitely speak your mind and in some cases too much.
Ah, well I was a moderator there briefly myself (until I decided I didn't like not being able to speak my own mind), and still check in to see what's going on and if anyone needs any particular help with their Gaggias.
Off topic: Did you have a run in with the Prince of coffee? ::) ;) If so then you aren't alone. Welcome to our club where you can definitely speak your mind and in some cases too much.
Oh yeah.....sure did....:-)))))))))))))))))))))
Susan
Me too... :D But I'm sure you heard about it in legend.
Oh yeah.....sure did....:-)))))))))))))))))))))
Me too... :D But I'm sure you heard about it in legend.
Oh yeah.....sure did....:-)))))))))))))))))))))Me too... :D But I'm sure you heard about it in legend.
Couple of trouble makers.... tisk tisk...
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Couple of trouble makers.... tisk tisk...
([url]http://www.extremefunnypictures.com/comment/whatchutalkingabout_smile.gif[/url])
Couple of trouble makers.... tisk tisk...
([url]http://www.extremefunnypictures.com/comment/whatchutalkingabout_smile.gif[/url])
And who is this Pot calling me black!!??? ;) >:D
Couple of trouble makers.... tisk tisk...
([url]http://www.extremefunnypictures.com/comment/whatchutalkingabout_smile.gif[/url])
And who is this Pot calling me black!!??? ;) >:D
Neither of you get a gold star for playing well with others!! :angel:
Couple of trouble makers.... tisk tisk...
([url]http://www.extremefunnypictures.com/comment/whatchutalkingabout_smile.gif[/url])
And who is this Pot calling me black!!??? ;) >:D
Neither of you get a gold star for playing well with others!! :angel:
Couple of trouble makers.... tisk tisk...
([url]http://www.extremefunnypictures.com/comment/whatchutalkingabout_smile.gif[/url])
And who is this Pot calling me black!!??? ;) >:D
Ohhh Tex......welcome to the club of misfits and troublemakers.
Neither of you get a gold star for playing well with others!! :angel:
Neither of you get a gold star for playing well with others!! :angel:
It's sort of ironic sometimes when you take a step back and survey the landscape....it's just funny is all.([url]http://www.todojuegos.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/gathering.gif[/url])
Sorta looks like Krups KM4065 ([url]http://www.krupsonlinestore.com/product_detail.asp?T1=KRU+KM4065&MENU=coffeemachines&SELECT=&SKW=kruautodrip[/url]).
Does anyone here have one of these.
I'm liking that hot water kettle ([url]http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/sku6925549/index.cfm?pkey=ccoffee-makers-tea-brewers&ckey=coffee-makers-tea-brewers[/url])
I'm liking that hot water kettle ([url]http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/sku6925549/index.cfm?pkey=ccoffee-makers-tea-brewers&ckey=coffee-makers-tea-brewers[/url])
Saw the $ tag. May I be there when you float this by MsWBW?
B|Java
I like how Delonghi's site has them for $149, and the Buy.com says they retail for $350.
Sigr ... that is a great find ... especially at that price point ... and it brews at 205 degrees in 4 minutes ... I wonder if they have a thermal carafe version of this?
:)
I thought this thread was for models that had been found to meet those criteria by members who have actually tested them....
I'm skeptical of company claims. On the other hand, I'll be interested if someone actually tests it.
I used to have a Melitta Fast Brew and passed it on elsewhere because it didn't seem up to snuff, but I don't know that I actually tested the brew temp. I might still be able to borrow it back for a test if anyone wants corroboration (or whatever the opposite of corroboration is).
Susan
Good point Susan ... independent verification by one of our members lends much credence to the claims of the vendors. Maybe I should restate it this way ... it sounds promising ... brewing at 205 degrees in 4 minutes ... we just need a member here to verify Melitta's claims.
My bad ... can we safely state it this way?
:)
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Our Presto Scandinavian finally died after a couple good years of use.
Our Presto Scandinavian finally died after a couple good years of use.
That's pretty good for a Presto.
I still have mine. Works as my backup if I need to brew more coffee around the house.
Our Presto Scandinavian finally died after a couple good years of use.
That's pretty good for a Presto.
I still have mine. Works as my backup if I need to brew more coffee around the house.
Do you do laps with it?
+1 for Technivorm....
+1 for Technivorm....
I sent my Technivorm back unused for a refund the same day it arrived after noticing how much of its plastic was exposed to hot steam and thus especially vulnerable to toxic bisphenol-a leaching -- and confirming my suspicions by conversing to a technician in the Technivorm U.S. support team who conceded the possibility.
I sent my Technivorm back unused for a refund the same day it arrived after noticing how much of its plastic was exposed to hot steam and thus especially vulnerable to toxic bisphenol-a leaching -- and confirming my suspicions by conversing to a technician in the Technivorm U.S. support team who conceded the possibility.
Did you switch back to a glass vacpot?
Slurp
I sent my Technivorm back unused for a refund the same day it arrived after noticing how much of its plastic was exposed to hot steam and thus especially vulnerable to toxic bisphenol-a leaching -- and confirming my suspicions by conversing to a technician in the Technivorm U.S. support team who conceded the possibility.
Did you switch back to a glass vacpot?
I like my coffee paper-filtered. Just because a brewer has some plastic in it doesn't mean it's a bisphenol-a risk. Most of the other brewer manufacturers have had the good sense to use plastics that have a higher melting point and weren't manufactured with bisphenol-a as a raw material.
Today the Bunn GRX I ordered arrived. It's all ready to go tomorrow morning -- I just have to worry about getting the right grind for it and the right water-to-grind proportions. This will be my fifth attempt to get a better brew than my aging $20 four-cup Mr. Coffee provides. Failure #1 was a Newcom OCS-8 that I ordered but that never came, #2 was the Technivorm with its bisphenol-a problem, #3 was a high-end Capresso with a defective spray head, #4 was a Hamilton Beach commercial brewer that was twice the price of the Mr. Coffee but made coffee only half as good.
Wish me luck this time with the Bunn!
Today the Bunn GRX I ordered arrived. It's all ready to go tomorrow morning -- I just have to worry about getting the right grind for it and the right water-to-grind proportions.Slurp
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Wish me luck this time with the Bunn!
I aplaud your persistence... hard road behind you. Bunns are great. you are correct that the grind will make it a win or lose.... but water temp. should be on the money. I have one and 1st couple pots I ground like I do for my cone filter Cuisinart... bad move on my part.. I had coffee and water all over the counter.. it stalled... what a mess.
My advice, is start courser than you think you'll end up with, then go a little finer at a time.
I personally use about 30 - 35 grams of coffee per 12 ounce cup....
I use 22g for 14oz. water. That's measured before boiling.
...vac-pot...
When a cup is still very hot, the temp can exacerbate the sour taste of acidity, which then settles down after only a couple slurps. Perhaps that is what you're experiencing as bitterness.
Anybody got any feedback on the Bunn STX? Bunn's website says "Available Soon", but several on-line vendors have them - looks like about 4150 shipped. Bunn claims it brewa at 200 and does 10 cups in 3 to 4 minutes. It also has a thermal carafe instaed of the warming plate that so many of us love.
Anybody got any feedback on the Bunn STX? Bunn's website says "Available Soon", but several on-line vendors have them - looks like about 4150 shipped. Bunn claims it brewa at 200 and does 10 cups in 3 to 4 minutes. It also has a thermal carafe instaed of the warming plate that so many of us love.
Tex,
Sorry to be dense, but are you saying that the Bunn STX has an electronic thermostat or one of those bi-metal tstats?. The specs that are on the link you provided say only "internal thermostat" without describing the type.
+1 for Technivorm....
I sent my Technivorm back unused for a refund the same day it arrived after noticing how much of its plastic was exposed to hot steam and thus especially vulnerable to toxic bisphenol-a leaching -- and confirming my suspicions by conversing to a technician in the Technivorm U.S. support team who conceded the possibility.
+1 for Technivorm....
I sent my Technivorm back unused for a refund the same day it arrived after noticing how much of its plastic was exposed to hot steam and thus especially vulnerable to toxic bisphenol-a leaching -- and confirming my suspicions by conversing to a technician in the Technivorm U.S. support team who conceded the possibility.
Having done no research on bisphenol-a leaching, are you saying I'm gonna die because I use my Technivorm?
+1 for Technivorm....
I sent my Technivorm back unused for a refund the same day it arrived after noticing how much of its plastic was exposed to hot steam and thus especially vulnerable to toxic bisphenol-a leaching -- and confirming my suspicions by conversing to a technician in the Technivorm U.S. support team who conceded the possibility.
Having done no research on bisphenol-a leaching, are you saying I'm gonna die because I use my Technivorm?
Here's the beginning of an answer to your question, mattquist:
"Health Effects
"Bisphenol A is an endocrine disruptor, which can mimic the body's own hormones and may lead to negative health effects.[15][16][17][18] Early development appears to be the period of greatest sensitivity to its effects.[19] Regulatory bodies have determined safety levels for humans, but those safety levels are currently being questioned or under review as a result of new scientific studies. [20][21]
"In 2009 the The Endocrine Society released a scientific statement expressing concern over current human exposure to BPA.[22]..."
Source: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisphenol_A[/url] ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisphenol_A[/url])
I got an Aquabrew TE-118 on eBay last Firday for $49. It arrived today and I just ran a pot of water through it to try it out. 192* into the pot. It needs a little minor cleaning and then it will be time to brew.
kp
There is a site that sells them new for $299. So far mine is working great! The only problem was that it came with a 1.5 L glass thermal carafe. I ordered a 2 L stainless thermal carafe from Aquabrew that came in last Friday. Now I'll be able to make what I consider a full pot. :D
kp
The carafe was $45...couldn't find it much cheaper then that. The coffee maker makes however much water is added, so I use the 60oz mark on the water pitcher for the new carafe, and a 48oz. mark I added for the smaller carafe. I use 3 1/2oz of coffee for the larger carafe, and just under 3oz for the smaller one.
kp
I like how Delonghi's site has them for $149, and the Buy.com says they retail for $350.
Yeah, Amazon has the list price at $350 as well. Go figure.
If you want to see something real "off" though check here: [url]http://www.factorydirect2you.com/decomabwiseb.html?zmam=3697690&zmas=1&zmac=2&zmap=DCM900[/url] ([url]http://www.factorydirect2you.com/decomabwiseb.html?zmam=3697690&zmas=1&zmac=2&zmap=DCM900[/url])
I just read about the Krups power Brew ([url]http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/7444342/index.cfm?pkey=ccoffee-makers-tea-brewers&cm_src=hero[/url]) only avaliable at William and Sonoma $119.00
1400 watts brews 5% hotter (195 - 205 degrees) and 21% faster....
Does anyone here have one of these.
I really feel I need to share my newest coffee related purchase. The Newco AKH AP brewer.
([url]http://newcocoffee.com/images/products/brewers/ak/lg_ak_ap.jpg[/url])
It will brew 64 ounces of coffee in 9 minutes. Exterior temp of the basket during the brew cycle is 175 by my IR thermometer. The coffee in the airpot is 185. I don't have a probe to sneak into the basket, but it probably is spot on. The water is heated by a 1775 watt 14.8 amp heat pump. The spray head gives good dispersion. I did a dry trial without filter or coffee and noted the water seemed to pulse which I suppose improves mixing of grounds and water.
Bottom line: It makes great coffee. It gets a lot of flavor when used in combination with my Rocky.
Now I have to find a permanent filter to fit this.
I bought it here:
[url]http://www.foodservicewarehouse.com/newco/akh-ap/p373087.aspx[/url] ([url]http://www.foodservicewarehouse.com/newco/akh-ap/p373087.aspx[/url])
Better price than Newco would give me. I think we need Joe to sweet talk JoAnn. Interestingly, it was direct shipped from Newco.
You just turn it on fill it with a pitcher of water and make great coffee. It doesn't use a reservoir like the Bunn's I am familiar with.
Airpot is separate.
I really feel I need to share my newest coffee related purchase. The Newco AKH AP brewer.
Now I have to find a permanent filter to fit this.
I bought it here:
[url]http://www.foodservicewarehouse.com/newco/akh-ap/p373087.aspx[/url] ([url]http://www.foodservicewarehouse.com/newco/akh-ap/p373087.aspx[/url])
Better price than Newco would give me. I think we need Joe to sweet talk JoAnn. Interestingly, it was direct shipped from Newco.
You just turn it on fill it with a pitcher of water and make great coffee. It doesn't use a reservoir like the Bunn's I am familiar with.
Airpot is separate.