Pourover Kettle Thread

[BoldJava]

Let's see if the 1.2 liter hits the porch this afternoon.  Would love to play with it tomorrow.


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[BoldJava]

Tiamo 1.2 Liter Kettle (40.5 oz) from Orphan Espresso. (Note:  No reimbursement for the product placement - for proportion purposes only except buy Wisconsin beer).

1st impressions.
1.  Man, who thought up this dual arrangement on the handle.  Uncomfortable; unnatural feel.
2.  Love the wide top.  A plus.
3.  The thermometer hole in the top doesn't take a standard kitchen frothing thermometer.  Orphan sells one that must fit but why not make it a generic application?
4.  Top stays on securely.
5.  Easily controlled pour, more than what is needed.
6.  Love the volume available.

[BoldJava]

Tips?  Comparable to the Paico.

Extreme control though not as "pointed" as the Takahiro.  I found the Paico and Takahiro similar -- the Tiamo seems to offer a very similar amount of control, way more than I believe is needed for a great pourover.

I am going to work with pourovers for the next 10 days or so and give some fuller feedback then.


Tiamo at 11 o'clock; Paico at 8 o'clock.

[peter]

9/32" drill bit on standby to ream out that hole in the top.  <angel>

[BoldJava]

Tiamo 1.2 Liter Kettle (40.5 oz) from Orphan Espresso. (Note:  No reimbursement for the product placement - for proportion purposes only except buy Wisconsin beer).

1st impressions.
1.  Man, who thought up this dual arrangement on the handle.  Uncomfortable; unnatural feel.
2.  Love the wide top.  A plus.
3.  The thermometer hole in the top doesn't take a standard kitchen frothing thermometer.  Orphan sells one that must fit but why not make it a generic application?
4.  Top stays on securely.
5.  Easily controlled pour, more than what is needed.
6.  Love the volume available.

Been using the Tiamo for a few days now and thought I would tie up the first look.  Good kettle.

^  Enjoying the look on the stove.  Czarina votes for the Paico.
^  Love the 1.2 volume.  A breeze for making my standard morning demand/supply chart of a liter of coffee.
^  Tiamo has less surface space heating (tall, with narrow base) than the Paico.  Takes a few minutes longer to heat the same volume than the Paico.  Immaterial to this putzer.
^  Good balance in the kettle.  Heavier SS than the Paico.
^  Handle becomes the deal breaker.  Really dislike the flat strip arrangement for a handle (compared to the Takahiro).
^  Tip offers a ton of control and more than I need.

Would I buy again?  While it is a fine kettle, I would opt for the Paico kettle which now lists at 1.2 liter.  I have always maintained it could do 1.2 liters -- now it lists at that size.  Out of stock but $24/and about $13 shipping when it returns to stock from Hong Kong.  1/2 the price of the Tiamo for same volume.

http://www.homeloo.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=574

Were I to start over on all kettles (knowing what I know now), I would buy a lifetime purchase, a 1.5 liter Takahiro which can be ordered through Prima for nearly $200.  Done.

[BoldJava]

And an alternative to the continuous vs the pulse pour.  This one is the "Ride the Bloom," prepared by Chris Owens of Intelli.

Hario V60 pourover how-to on Vimeo

[John F]

I've done thousands of ride the cloud pours. That method gets my stamp of approval for a no nonsense "need coffee now" pour.

[peter]

I've done thousands of ride the cloud pours. That method gets my stamp of approval for a no nonsense "need coffee now" pour.

That's similar to my pour too, other than the preinfusion and I ride my cloud up the sides more slowly.  That part of the pour should be determined by the flow-rate of the filter, in my opinion.

[bekeld]

Thank you, B|Teacher. That is a lot less fussy--need that for school. The powers that be frown on caffeine IV drips and nasal feeding tubes for chocolate to keep us going.

[ecc]

A quick pre-rinse on a brown filter with no dump, no kettle preheat, ultra efficient manpower pour with a lot of water stacking on top seems to be a commercial favorite.  I recently timed a newly open boutique shop at just under 1:30 for 12oz on a single hole dripper using a technique very similar to the video.

There are a lot of paths through the extraction countryside.  I understand why some prefer the shortest distance between two points, but ...

Rodney Dangerfield Snorts Coffee

[John F]

I actually felt that I liked it the least because with this kettle my pinky was hitting the hot kettle body

My grip has nothing touching the body of the kettle...

[fore]

Well that copper one certainly looks great! 

[ecc]

The handle feels awkward to me unless I grab onto it from the side.   (kettle perpendicular to my forearm)  Only the tips of my fingers go inside the handle. 

I also like to pour it by rotating my forearm, not bending the wrist much, not raising the elbow.

[BozemanEric]

Today I split the hot water up amongst the two covered kettles, the Tiamo 700 ml and the Takahiro 900 ml and alternated them on a hot burner to keep the water temp up.

Good idea. If I want two Takahiro kettles I could keep my water temperature up (important at 5000 feet above sea level) and do 20+ ounce pourovers. This was definitely an idea I did not need to hear about.

[John F]

Good idea. If I want two Takahiro kettles I could keep my water temperature up (important at 5000 feet above sea level) and do 20+ ounce pourovers.

 

You just solved B I bigpour's problem.

Two fist fulls of Takahiro.